Talk:Palm Springs Air Museum

Took the liberty of adding the 88mm gun to the list of artifacts, as it is the only such gun on the west coast of the US as far as I know. It can be seen in museum website photos, outside between the building and the parking lot. It is aparently a spanish-built model, made under license to the german company. WonderWheeler (talk) 07:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

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The changes to the intro sounded alarm bells of such magnitude that I reverted the edits wholesale. I'm thinking that at least some of the text may be salvageable. If any other editors would like to look at it and chime in, I welcome other eyes. —C.Fred (talk) 20:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Thank you for considering other opinions. I did work to resolve your concerns and subsequently posted a revision that also was pulled, by @Drmies. I believe I removed anything that could sound promotional and supported the factual nature of the statements with secondary sources. I further was correcting/updating old information to make the page accurate and more relevant/informative. I hope my last version can be reviewed and approved. If there are remaining issues, I would appreciate an opportunity to resolve them instead of having everything wiped out in one fell swoop. I have extensive writing and editing experience outside of Wikipedia; but this is a new process for me, so I am learning how things work on this platform and hoping this is the way to reach agreement on improving a Wikipedia page. BellamyBell (talk) 15:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

@BellamyBell Your most recent edits on the article were four days ago, and they were again too promotional to use. My recommendation going forward is to work in smaller chunks, no more than a paragraph or two at a time, and to propose the edit here. I suggest including a {{edit COI }} tag to alert other users to your request and get them to review it. If it's accepted, then an independent editor can place the text in the article. —C.Fred (talk) 17:48, 20 May 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

OK, here's the new intro section to replace the current one (which is not entirely accurate). I used in-line links for "Palm Springs" and "Palm Springs International Airport." The source footnote (1) is included below:

Palm Springs Air Museum is an aviation museum in Palm Springs, California. The 501(c)(3) nonprofit leases from the city 17 acres abutting Palm Springs International Airport.

Beginnings

Dated January 5, 1994, the Organizational Certificate of Incorporation for the museum was signed by Harold N. ("Pete") Madison, Charles H. Mayer, and Bill Byrne — the former two being members of the city’s airport commission. A former P-38 pilot, Madison contacted his friend, Robert J. Pond, a Navy Air Corps World War II veteran, who had been collecting and rebuilding warbirds and classic cars and helped established the Planes of Fame East Museum (closed in 1997) in Eden Prairie, Minnesota.1 The museum opened on Veterans Day (November 11) in 1996.

1 "Dining buddies dreamed up Palm Springs Air Museum," Denise Goolsby, The Desert Sun (May 24, 2014)

https://www.desertsun.com/story/life/2014/05/25/history-palm-springs-air-museum-dining-couple/9564051/

{{edit COI}} BellamyBell (talk) 18:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

I followed your direction and no one is weighing in. I cut and pasted the tag from your post and assume that worked properly. What do I do now? BellamyBell (talk) 20:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

@BellamyBell The tag did not work properly, because you left the nowiki tags around the opening braces.

As for the content, why the preoccupation with the Organizational Certificate of Incorporation? —C.Fred (talk) 02:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

It is not a preoccupation but just a fact to establish the formal beginnings of the museum and identify the individuals behind it. The word "founders" would be less accurate because Bob Pond was the person providing planes and so he was integral but only after the other men sought his help.

Sorry about the tag error. I have no background in coding and just relied on the copy-and-paste method. BellamyBell (talk) 19:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [reply ]