Talk:Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 421

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Date	Process	Result
December 5, 2009	Good article nominee	Listed

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Photos

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Does anyone have a photo of a Martin 2-0-2? Commons and Wikipedia don't seem to have any. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 05:27, 25 November 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 421/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: ---Dough 48 72 18:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC) [reply ]
Comments:

The lead of the article is very short. More information should be added to provide a summary of the article.
There are several short paragraphs throughout the article. These should be combined to form longer paragraphs.
Are there any pictures that can be added to the article?

I am placing the article on hold. ---Dough 48 72 18:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

Expanded the lead with information about the cause of the crash and aftermath of the investigation.
The short paragraphs in section "Flight" were consolidated and/or expanded.
Commons has no images of Martin 2-0-2 aircraft whatsoever. I uploaded the single schematic from the CAB report (wing root assembly) and put it in. Otherwise, no -- there are no other suitable images available that I know of.

--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 20:29, 4 December 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

I will pass the article. ---Dough 48 72 02:26, 5 December 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

Name of the plane?

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The article treats the name of the plane inconsistently; sometimes it is Martin 202, other times Martin 2-0-2. It should be either the one or the other. I would make the change if I knew what the Martin company called it. I see that the same problem appears in the article devoted to the plane. PKKloeppel (talk) 04:05, 5 December 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

The name of the plane is treated inconsistently through contemporary publications as well, but the wikipedia page on the aircraft is title "Martin 2-0-2." The Civil Aeronautics Board accident report calls it both "Martin 202" and "Martin 2-0-2." I'm pretty sure it's 2-0-2, however, and have changed all instances in the article to 2-0-2. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 20:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

Northwest Orient Airlines or Northwest Airlines?

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I don't think the name Northwest Orient was used until a few years after this crash. The CAB report only refers to Northwest Airlines. Should the article be renamed and the text changed to drop the word Orient? --Itsfullofstars (talk) 08:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

The airline currently known as "Northwest Airlines" went through a series of name changes since its founding in 1926, wherein the only thing that really stayed constant was the word "Northwest." According to the Northwest Airlines page, the progression went something like this:

1926 - Northwest Airways
1933 - Northwest Airlines
1950 - Northwest Orient Airlines
1986 - Northwest Airlines

I spoke to my grandfather (b. 1907), who worked as a cook for TWA, and he said that the airline was usually just called "Northwest" because it had a habit of changing its name. The reason the article got its original name was because of the ASN entry, since that site is usually right. I'll move the page, however, since contemporary sources and the CAB report indicate otherwise.

--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 17:20, 13 December 2009 (UTC) [reply ]

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