Talk:Mormonism and Nicene Christianity

Two IP editors have recently performed major edits to this article, apparently with a view to making the text clearly partial to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. These edits are, I believe, in violation of the relevant Manual of Style page (MOS:LDS) — or possibly done in ignorance of the said MoS page (since these IP editors may be new to Wikipedia and unaware of the way things are done here). Since active discussion has been underway on the talk page (Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Latter Day Saints) for some time — with no suggestion, btw, of any consensus emerging anytime soon — between editors who support the current MoS recommendations and other editors who insist the current recommendations are insulting to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and need to be changed ASAP, I don't think it's appropriate for people to be unilaterally changing the language in Mormonism and Nicene Christianity in the absence of a consensus to change the MoS page. I am inclined to impose pending-changes protection on the article, so that changes by IP editors must be accepted by an admin or other person with the "pending changes reviewer" right before they become generally visible; however, since I have been heavily involved in the MoS talk-page discussion on this matter, I would prefer if someone else do this (assuming, of course, that others agree with the idea of pending-change protection in the first place). Comments? — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 04:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC) [reply ]

• The current manual of style inaproriately makes it unreasonably difficult to refer to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in ways they choose to be refered to. This is not making the article partial, but correct. When a group of people asks that people stop calling them by a name that they reject on theological grounds and asks that they be refered to as either "members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" or "Latter-day Saints", continuing to refer to them by a name they have chose to no longer embrace and instead have chosen to use the name that they have always prefered, continuing to refer to them by a name they no longer accept makes no sense at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:39, 24 August 2021 (UTC) [reply ]

@Good Olfactory: Here you moved the reference from inside the parentheses to outside it. I think parentheses are treated slightly differently than other punctuation in this case. My reasoning for putting it inside was that the reference applied only to material within the parentheses, therefore the ref tags should belong just before the closing parenthesis based on my reading of MOS:REFPUNCT. Thoughts? --FyzixFighter (talk) 13:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC) [reply ]

I could be wrong. After reading MOS:REFPUNCT again, I'm not sure. In any case, I have changed it back. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 02:34, 10 May 2021 (UTC) [reply ]

Nobody except Mormons use the term "nicene Christianity". This change is not even able to maintain its naming scheme consistently through the article. There is also no "nicene Christianity" page to link to, as the term is only being used on this page to create confusion about what should be titled "differences between Mormons and Christians". 71.223.156.177 (talk) 14:28, 5 June 2023 (UTC) [reply ]

The above comment was originally added to a closed renaming proposal. Since closed proposals are considered to be archived and are not supposed to be modified, I have moved the comment into a separate section. If the IP editor (or anyone else) objects to the article's current name and wants to propose a rename, please read the instructions on requested moves and open a new move request. Before doing so, however, please carefully study the earlier comments on this talk page. Please also note that "Nicene Christianity" does exist, as a redirect to "Nicene Creed". — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 18:22, 5 June 2023 (UTC) [reply ]

The word "Mormon" church is considered derogatory. Members prefer to be referred to as members of The Church of Jesus Christ. The fact that this article consistently calls the church by an incorrect name indicates potential bias. 209.33.201.58 (talk) 16:43, 7 December 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

The phrase "Mormon church" is used only once, in the sentence "The release discouraged the use of the term "Mormon Church"" Crelb (talk) 01:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC) [reply ]