Talk:Cyclist (painting)
- Did you know... that Russian artist Natalia Goncharova used a Cubo-Futurist style in her 1913 painting Cyclist (pictured)?
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- ... that the Russian artist Natalia Goncharova used a Cubo-Futurist style in her 1913 painting Cyclist (pictured)? Source: Harte 2009, p. 113
Created by GeneralPoxter (talk). Self-nominated at 14:02, 15 June 2021 (UTC).Reply
- The article is new enough, long enough, QPQ has been done. The picture is the Russian equivalent of public domain, or similar, from 1913. The hook is cited and interesting. The number 3 ref is using an external link to google books in the body of the article, it needs to be put in standard format, the external link should be in the references section with its usual formatting. Other than that, this is fine. Desertarun (talk) 16:03, 15 June 2021 (UTC) Reply
- @Desertarun: Thank you for the prompt review. I made changes to the external link placements; please let me know if they are satisfactory. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 16:25, 15 June 2021 (UTC) Reply
- This is good to go. Desertarun (talk) 18:24, 15 June 2021 (UTC) Reply
> Furthermore, art historian Paul Smethurst interprets the finger as a suggestion of "Soviet state control and suppression" against the freedom of mobility.
A painting truly ahead of its time?
- Yeah I was confused about this as well. It's probably not an issue with the source, since Smethurst is a professor in art history, so it is definitely my linking it incorrectly to the Soviet Union. Now that I look at it again, it's likely referring to the pre-Revolution Soviet (council), so I'll change the link to that. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 15:58, 12 July 2021 (UTC) Reply
- Art history professors, well-educated though they may be, are not above making (admittedly embarrassing) errors. If you follow the link to the source, it is quite clear from the original text that Smethurst is simply confused about the timeline of Russian history; not only were the pre-Revolution soviets not nearly powerful enough to enact "control and suppression", but they were also disbanded in 1905, eight years before the painting's completion, and brought back in February of 1917. Thus it is only reasonable to remove that tidbit from the text before it propagates further. Vadim Galimov (talk) 16:18, 12 July 2021 (UTC) Reply
- All right, agreed. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 16:26, 12 July 2021 (UTC) Reply
- Art history professors, well-educated though they may be, are not above making (admittedly embarrassing) errors. If you follow the link to the source, it is quite clear from the original text that Smethurst is simply confused about the timeline of Russian history; not only were the pre-Revolution soviets not nearly powerful enough to enact "control and suppression", but they were also disbanded in 1905, eight years before the painting's completion, and brought back in February of 1917. Thus it is only reasonable to remove that tidbit from the text before it propagates further. Vadim Galimov (talk) 16:18, 12 July 2021 (UTC) Reply
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{{subst:requested move }}. Do not use {{requested move/dated }} directly. Cyclist (painting) → Cyclist (Goncharova) – Correct disambiguator according to MOS:ART/DAB. ~2026-42565-74 (talk) 20:19, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Oppose That part of the policy ends "The names of less well-known artists may not be suitable disambiguation terms.", which I think applies here. Johnbod (talk) 00:14, 2 August 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Support, she's decently well-known with thousands of views a month so MOS:ART/DAB probably applies.--Ortizesp (talk) 01:42, 2 August 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Comment: I have misgivings about MOS:ART/DAB as it's currently written. Disambiguating by artform (when there aren't multiple artworks of the same title with articles) would avoid any subjective decisions about whether an artist is or isn't well-known enough. It would be more in the spirit of WP:NCDAB, which says to disambiguate by "
the generic class (avoiding proper nouns, as much as possible)
". (Once there are several paintings of the same title with articles, disambiguation by a proper noun – the artist's name – is necessary.) MOS:ART/DAB's concern that "The names of less well-known artists may not be suitable disambiguation terms
" would then cease to be a problem for these works with more generic disambiguators. It would also sidestep the question of what to do with unknown artists in these cases, like the Battle of Orsha (unknown) mentioned by MOS:ART/DAB which is now at the title Battle of Orsha (painting), paintings by the workshop of an artist, etc. Ham II (talk) 06:43, 3 August 2026 (UTC) Reply