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A fact from Charles Irving (surgeon) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 June 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Irving (surgeon).
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The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 17:59, 1 June 2021 (UTC) [reply ]

Irving's apparatus for distillation of seawater
Irving's apparatus for distillation of seawater
  • (削除) ... that James Cook used Charles Irving 's apparatus (pictured) to produce fresh water during his second voyage? (削除ここまで) Source: Beaglehole, John C. (1961). The journals of Captain James Cook on his voyages of discovery: The voyage of the Resolution and Adventure, 1772-1775, p. xxvi. Also in [1].
    • ALT1:(削除) ... that Charles Irving was the surgeon on HMS Racehorse during an attempt to sail to the North Pole? (削除ここまで) Source: Ann Savours, "A Very Interesting Point in Geography": The 1773 Phipps Expedition towards the North Pole [2]

Moved to mainspace by Kusma (talk). Self-nominated at 10:22, 7 May 2021 (UTC).[reply ]

Interesting life, on fine sources, subscription sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I could approve ALT1 right away, but think the original is closer to what he stood for. It relies on readers knowing that Cook was a seafarer, and I am not sure they do. Perhaps use the phrase from the lead about distilling seawater? ... and/or bring the voyage link more to the beginning? - Both images are licensed, but the apparatus doesn't show well in small size. The ships show the time, but "sail" supplies a similar information. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 12 May 2021 (UTC) [reply ]
Thanks Gerda Arendt. The image is a bit "some confusing technical drawing" at any size, but I guess people could still find it interesting. Here are slight reformulations including seawater/putting the voyage to the front.
If this runs with the image, "distillation of seawater" is in the image caption, though, and shouldn't need to be stated in the hook again. —Kusma (t·c) 10:41, 13 May 2021 (UTC) [reply ]
thank you for fine ALTs, - I prefer0a, but up to the prep builder, same about the image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC) [reply ]

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 10:38, 6 October 2021 (UTC) [reply ]


Comments

  • "fl. 1768-1781" per MOS this should almost certainly be "fl. 1768–1781"
    Dashes changed throughout.
  • "British Navy" do you mean Royal Navy?
    Fixed.
  • "5,000ドル" inflate.
    Done, hope the precision works.
  • "(c. 1738-1800[1])" Should be an en-dash.
    Fixed.
  • " Dumfriesshire,[4]" might be worth stating this is in Scotland here, as it's not a commonly known location.
    Added.
  • "how he became" how Charles Irving became (last "he" was his brother).
    Fixed.
  • "Olaudah Equiano, 1789" not informative caption, perhaps explain why he's relevant here.
    I've removed the image.
  • "to the British Navy in" again, you mean Royal Navy.
    Yes.
  • "in 1770.[8] In January 1771" repetitive.
    Reformulated.
  • "the Admiralty" link.
    Done.
  • "James Lind, Lind " repetitive.
    It's "the latter" now, but better suggestions welcome.
  • First Lord of the Admiralty link.
    Done
  • "Joseph Priestley tasted" context, i.e. "The scientist Joseph..." or similar.
    Added
  • "but ... wanted" non-breaking space between "but" and the ellipsis.
    Done.
  • "the large sum of 5,000ドル" remove "the large sum of" and inflate.
    Done, same precision as above.
  • First Sec -> Permanent Secretary to the Admiralty.
    Linking through redirect in case the article is ever split.
  • "Phipps' 1774" sadly, we now insist on "Phipps's"
    Made worse.
  • "but Lord ..., but to ..." repetitive.
    Improved.
  • "guardacostas" link? Or do we simply mean "coast guards"?
    (削除) I think they were privateers. I haven't found the best possible link yet, will report back or footnote. (削除ここまで) May have been more or less coast guards, unlike the privateers of 50 years earlier. (some sources if I need them later: [3], [4], [5]). I just put "(coast guards)" after guarda costas for now.
  • "lost a sum of 3,723ドル" delete "a sum of" and inflate.
    Done.
  • "1779-1781," en-dash.
    Done.
  • "1791 Statistical Account of Scotland " Accounts
    No. The first book is just called The Statistical Account of Scotland .
  • Hoare source, en-dash in year range.
    Done.
  • No geographical categories, even "People from Scotland" or similar?
    Added People from Dumfries and Galloway.

That's all I have. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 07:27, 11 October 2021 (UTC) [reply ]

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