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Remove this template after the problem is fixed | Report an errorI was wondering whether checks are made inquiring to the reason for travel to other countries at airports. This could reduce prostitution/human trafficking. For example, if a young woman or women, accompanied by a man travels from a developing country to a developed country and if the accompanying man is known to work at a shady dance hall, ... it can be assumed that the reason for travel could be illegal prostitution/human trafficking. Denying travel in these instances would make it economically far less attractive for traffickers (as they'll need to opt for different -more expensive- modes of travel, ie via car, train, ..).
In specific, airports of atleast [cities] should be foreseen with such checking.
Besides this, the checking of visa's and being less easy-going on providing these to "dancers" at dance halls, ... would also be advisable; however this will probably not be possible in certain areas -i.e. in Europe, movement across borders is more or less free/unrestricted allready-.
This article, in late October 2014, does not discuss border control's functions in reducing risks of transmitting infectious diseases in crops. I think it should briefly mention that function. MaynardClark (talk) 15:09, 28 October 2014 (UTC) Reply
- At the end of 2015, the article yet does not mention the border control's role in lowering risks of transmitting infectious diseases in crops brought across international borders. MaynardClark (talk) 08:43, 27 December 2015 (UTC) Reply
- Does the current portion on quarantine address this issue? 58.182.247.136 (talk) 11:09, 8 August 2018 (UTC) Reply
The current revision of the history section is obviously ideologically motivated, full of false statements like "Whilst border control in Europe and east of the Pacific have tightened over time" and incomplete. It also seems to discuss U.S. and British nationality law rather than border controls in itself. What about nationalism, the customs income incentive, quarantine, historical Spanish controls against Jews and Moors, threat of communism and anarchism, Soviet Union, EU and Schengen, etc.? Rather than try to improve it, should there be a better starting point like a shorter but more complete section? This does require significant deletions of the current content though, so I'd rather start here on the talk page. --vuo (talk) 06:10, 7 August 2018 (UTC) Reply
Besides the new history section, the current revision also has other problems. It should be forked into several other articles as is, because it is way too long. This is because it contains long lists ("phonebooks") in many sections and large amounts of extremely specific details about individual countries. There is also a mix-up with another related topic, immigration policy. For example, the section about immigrant investors is about this. Border control is the enforcement of these policies, but these policies are a distinct topic. Whereas, there should be something about border guards, more than a "see also" link. --vuo (talk) 06:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC) Reply
The lemma states that Canadians do not need an ESTA. Isn't the same true for Bermudans? Ds77 (talk) 22:11, 9 August 2018 (UTC) Reply
- Fixed it.111.65.57.8 (talk) 06:56, 10 August 2018 (UTC) Reply
By the way, should the article also mention the whole situation with visa exemptions for Bahamians who use preclearance, and the Cayman Islands waiver programme? How about automatic revalidation for people visiting "contiguous" territories? 111.65.58.97 (talk) 11:32, 23 August 2018 (UTC) Reply
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Surely Israel is not in Europe? Sweboi (talk) 13:31, 30 June 2019 (UTC) Reply
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In the "Europe" section, on the map, where is the RED LINE? Because the caption says it is there, but I don't see it. And I hope I haven't gone colour blind. ᕵᗩᑘᒪ_ᖶᕼᘿ_ᑢᖻᑢᒪᓰSᖶ from Hungarian Wiki Post 23:22, 3 November 2021 (UTC) Reply
This article is currently the longest on the wiki, with 497,000+ bytes. I am unsure exactly how we would do a split, so I am open to ideas for either splitting or another way of reducing this article's size. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 16:10, 12 November 2021 (UTC) Reply
- @Blubabluba9990 In addition to what has been done already, the section on Visas should be shortened/summarized, and have its contents merged with the main article Travel visa.
- Furthermore, the information on "Electronic visas and electronic travel authorisations" should be either extracted to a separate stand-alone article, or merged into Travel visa as it more closely belongs there than here. Set theorist (talk) 10:26, 30 March 2022 (UTC) Reply
Synonym. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.112.214.68 (talk) 00:21, 14 May 2022 (UTC) Reply
Immigration law and policy section
[edit ]There's an entire section on "Immigration law and policy" that is indeed about that, immigration law and policy. Most of it is not directly concerned with border control, or at least it fails to reflect its statements against border control topics. I am proposing cutting it out or at least minimizing it and leaving a link to "Immigration law". vuo (talk) 10:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC) Reply
- done.--Wuerzele (talk) 23:03, 8 June 2023 (UTC) Reply
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@Buidhe reverted the addition of "Ineffective immigration enforcement reduces rule of law" from section "Effects" with the comment: " this section is for documented, empirical effects, not political theory". I moved this addition then to section "Border security". Which section would be appropriate? HudecEmil (talk) 16:32, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I honestly don't see how this paper is very relevant to the article given its theoretical basis and providing the non notable author's opinion. (t · c) buIdhe 17:24, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I also question the premise, as changing the law seems not to be considered as an option. (t · c) buIdhe 17:26, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Suggest a different phrasing and source, now for section "Immigration law": According to Lon L. Fuller law enforcement should be congruent with the laws.[Lon L. Fuller, The Morality of Law, rev. ed. New Haven CT: Yale University Press, 1969, pp. 33-38; cf. Summers, Lon L. Fuller, p. 28.] HudecEmil (talk) 19:54, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I also question the premise, as changing the law seems not to be considered as an option. (t · c) buIdhe 17:26, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply
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