Talk:Battle of Yingzhou/GA1
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Nominator: Min968(talk · contribs) 13:51, 17 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Reviewer: Kisseran(talk · contribs) 17:34, 18 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Hi! I'll take this one. Review to come.
Kisseran (talk) 17:34, 18 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
@Min968: See review below:
- GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability ): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists ):
- See below.
- a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability ): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists ):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable , as shown by a source spot-check.
- a (reference section ): b (inline citations to reliable sources ): c (OR ): d (copyvio and plagiarism ):
- Earwig turns up nothing. See spot check below.
- a (reference section ): b (inline citations to reliable sources ): c (OR ): d (copyvio and plagiarism ):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects ): b (focused ):
- a (major aspects ): b (focused ):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales ): b (appropriate use with suitable captions ):
- All images are relevant, freely licensed, and appropriately captioned.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales ): b (appropriate use with suitable captions ):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Prose
[edit ]- I've already made some minor copyedits, so here are some comments on things I wasn't 100% certain about
- piping "Mongols" to Northern Yuan definitely feels like WP:EGG. Perhaps just say
Mongol Northern Yuan dynasty
the campaign
— you probably don't need to signal so many times that victory is good and criticism is bad(削除) nevertheless (削除ここまで)drew intense criticismgradually revived
→gradually recovered
he ordered troop reinforcements
— as opposed to some other kind of reinforcement?The Ming–Qing historian Li Xun
— this made me think that Li Xun was a historian active between the Ming and Qing dynasties until I checked the footnote at the end of the paragraph. I'm not sure how this should be fixed though.awarded title of Earl
— probably worth clarifying what the title was in Chinese?
Spot check
[edit ]This table lists 6 random passages from throughout the article (21.4% of 28 total passages). These passages contain 8 inline citations (18.6% of 43 in the article). Generated with the Veracity user script. Kisseran (talk) 05:55, 19 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
| Reference # | Letter | Source | Archive | Status | Notes |
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| His son, the Yongle Emperor, further strengthened these efforts by personally leading a series of expeditions against the Mongols between 1410 and 1424. | |||||
| 4 | Chan (1988), pp. 226–228. | [画像:check]Y | |||
| The Emperor departed for Xuanfu in the summer of 1517, arriving in mid-September. | |||||
| 9 | Geiss (1998), p. 419. | [画像:check]Y | |||
| 10 | a | Geiss (1998), p. 420. | [画像:check]Y | Is this as a separate citation really necessary, instead of collapsing the two pages into one? | |
| 11 | a | Dardess (2020), p. 323. | [画像:check]Y | ||
| The battle began on 16 October 1517, followed by several minor skirmishes the next day in which the Mongols repeatedly withdrew after suffering casualties. | |||||
| 10 | e | Geiss (1998), p. 420. | [画像:check]Y | ||
| According to the Ming Veritable Records, there were 16 Mongol casualties compared to 52 Ming troops killed and 563 injured. The Emperor's sedan chair was nearly captured. | |||||
| 11 | e | Dardess (2020), p. 323. | [画像:check]Y | ||
| Court officials were ordered to wait for the Emperor outside the northwestern gate of Beijing. He appeared late in the evening, armed and on horseback, accompanied by a cavalry escort. He told the officials that he had actually killed a Mongol himself. | |||||
| 13 | e | Geiss (1998), p. 421. | [画像:check]Y | This paraphrasing is a bit close but I can't blame you. | |
| Despite disputes over the details of the battle, it was the only time during the sixteenth century that Ming armies turned back a large Mongol army and the emperor's presence on the field of battle certainly influenced the outcome. | |||||
| 16 | b | Geiss (1998), p. 422. | [画像:check]Y | Again this paraphrasing feels a bit close, but still I'm not too concerned about it. | |
Kisseran (talk) 05:55, 19 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- @Kisseran All done. Min968 (talk) 06:44, 19 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Looks good to me! I shall promote this now. Kisseran (talk) 06:48, 19 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
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