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A fact from Alexander Goehr appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 March 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
It's sad that only now - after Goehr died - we notice that the article needs changes, desperately. Much of the text is simply copied from sources. It needs rephrasing or attribution as quotes. Some of these sources are known (Schott), others will need to be found. I have no access to Grove and MGG. Someone who does could work miracles.
While the article is rich in reflections about his style, facts such as people for whom he wrote and who premiered his works, and dates and locations of premieres, are missing but available in source. We should also have more reviews. Perhaps make the list of works a separate article. For starters. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There should be a Personal life section, children are mentioned in the infobox without reference.
We should strive for an article with only referenced facts to bring him to the Main page in the Recent deaths section which he deserves. A few days are left to do that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We have now two obituaries, and both are mostly included as references. Several facts still a reference, and rephrasing.
We may want to use a consistent referencing system.
I'll tackle this more tomorrow, but have done some preliminary work. In this edit I removed the mini POV-essay, which may contain possibly helpful information that can be cited in the future. – Aza24 (talk)04:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Improved to Good Article status by Gerda Arendt (talk), Aza24 (talk), and Grimes2 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2131 past nominations.
Within classical music, all these names are well known. Howarth would perhaps be the least known, although his recordings are prized by collectors. How well are these names known outside of classical music? Possibly Ogdon has the best shot at widespread recognition. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 03:13, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In my humble opinion, it doesn't matter if they are already known. Together, they formed this force, and leaving one out seems unfair. (Bad enough that there were obviously a few more, - even a woman is pictured but we don't know her name, nor if she was there only for company.) These five are mentioned together in several sources. Howarth conducted the first brass band concert at The Proms, but that would be a DYK if he gets GA (which has been suggested). I believe that Goehr is best remembered for having driven this progressive team force of national impact, therefore I preferred this hook over others we could say about his vast work, - all alts I thought about seemed more specialised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:52, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Birtwistle is an internationally known opera composer. Sir Davies is a famous conductor and composer. I am not familiar with Howarth (not surprising as I am an American) but he has won a Laurence Olivier Award and done work with The Beatles so I wouldn't consider him unknown in the UK. John Ogdon is widely recognized as the best British classical pianist in the history of the United Kingdom. He's been the subject of a BBC documentary, and tribute concerts on BBC television decades after he died. Best.4meter4 (talk) 18:56, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This article, promoted to GA on 19 Jan, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and copyvio free. The hook is cited, verified, and in the body of the article. That the hook is interesting has been established above. QPQ provided. Good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 15:34, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: I am posting here so I don't derail the DYK thread. I added "as students" to the sentence about NMM as it is interesting that a student music group was a "distinctive, progressive force". However, do remove it if you think it is not needed.
Thank you! Can you perhaps expand from there. I have to deal with 3 recent deaths articles, supply better sources for a bio, want to get a Bach cantata ready for Sunday, and promised to finish a FAC review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:08, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
