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Editorial independence

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Latest comment: 4 months ago 1 comment1 person in discussion

Al Jazeera English has developed its own internal editorial guidelines and is editorially independent from Al Jazeera Arabic.

For the above statement - it doesn’t look like the BBC source listed directly supports it. I cannot access the Economist source. Should we remove it and just go with other sources? 🐈Cinaroot 16:59, 28 March 2026 (UTC) Reply

Review recent changes

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Latest comment: 2 months ago 1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello all - I made some recent changes to the article. If there are any issues - please flag them now. Ty 🐈Cinaroot 01:41, 30 May 2026 (UTC) Reply

"Trusted Source" in the lede

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Latest comment: 1 month ago 6 comments2 people in discussion

Since this has been subject to a revert, I will bring it to talk page. The portion in the lede about Al-Jazeera as a "trusted source" is an unqualified qualifier that does not exist in the lede for the page of any other news network, even other RS such as BBC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC, Le Monde https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde, or CNN https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN. CNN is an apt comparison since CNN's slogan is "The most trusted name in news", but that phrase is specified in the passage as "claims to be" and by CNN itself, and in the page about Le Monde, the qualification of "Newspaper of Record" is specified as "presents itself" rather than a statement of fact as in the lede for the Al Jazeera page. The subjective quality of a newspaper is never stated in the lede as a matter of fact. ~2026-32294-65 (talk) 02:00, 30 May 2026 (UTC) Reply

It says "trusted source of news in the Arab and Muslim world" and is supported by WP:RS I can find some more sources as well if needed. It’s a matter of consensus to include it in the lead of this article, and articles of BBC or CNN have no effect. Feel free to revert as per WP:ONUS. The network is also heavily criticized and attacked. Bias maybe arguably a dominant factor in trust. So I can understand - why westerners might think Al Jazeera cannot be trusted - but as sources describe - it is a trusted network among the Muslim world. 🐈Cinaroot 03:57, 30 May 2026 (UTC) Reply
"and articles of BBC or CNN have no effect"
The Articles on other news networks are there to give an example of how article lead should be written WP:MOS, "the lead should be written in a clear, accessible style with a neutral point of view." The first two sections of NPOV are "Avoid stating opinions as facts" and "Avoid stating seriously contested assertions as facts", the way you wrote the segment conflicts with both of these, since your cited sources are the opinions of those sources, and the trustworthiness of Al Jazeera is contested by other RS. To give an example, saying "Al Jazeera is trustworthy" is an opinion, saying "there are people who trust al Jazeera" would be the fore factual statement. ~2026-32294-65 (talk) 01:23, 2 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
CNN’s slogan is "The most trusted name in news". That’s CNN's claim. So we say - CNN claims to be... But if multiple independent reliable sources have supported that claim - we can also say CNN is the most trusted name in news. I doubt such a broad claim can be verifiable with independent sources.
In regards to Al jazeera, I'm not stating my opinions as facts. I have given multiple RS to support the claim. Please refer to sources linked in the article and below. It is a fact that public opinion surveys, media studies, and academic publishers have documented Al Jazeera's high credibility ratings in the region.
Since you are claiming - talking about Al Jazeera's credibility is not neutral - please read WP:WEIGHT. If multiple scholarly and high-quality reliable sources state that Al Jazeera is trusted or perceived as credible (the Arab and Muslim world) - then we can include it in the article. Cinaroot (talk) 03:52, 2 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
"In regards to Al jazeera, I'm not stating my opinions as facts. I have given multiple RS to support the claim."
You have not given multiple established RS to support the claim, the sources you cite are 3 journalism professors who are presenting their opinions. The US army press article is also someone presenting their opnion. The only one of the sources that actually support the text of what you have written is Mohamed Zayani. None of the 4 have presented their findings in a quantitative manner to support the statement. ~2026-32294-65 (talk) 03:44, 20 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

Sources

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Apart from the cited sources in the article, these are a few different sources.
Indeed, in the early days of AJE, anecdotal evidence suggested that people were ready for a change. In January 2007, a survey of AJE viewers conducted by the Nation newspaper—incidentally, one of the few English dailies in Pakistan with an aggressively anti-West tone—found that AJE was "fast replacing" Western news channels as an information source, and was "in great demand," particularly among affluent residents of Karachi. Cable providers claimed that conservative Muslims and moderates alike were requesting the channel. Nearly every featured AJE viewer praised the channel’s balance, objectivity, and credibility—the very qualities that the BBC survey would identify a year later as Pakistani news consumers’ most important criteria for high-quality news programming author MICHAEL KUGELMAN
Other Arab states soon felt Al Jazeera’s sting, as stories were aired about corrupt governments that neglected their own people’s needs (and the needs of neighboring Palestinians) while officials enriched themselves. By the time of the 2000 intifada, Al Jazeera had become the principal television source for news about Arabs reported by Arabs. Its coverage featured an Arab perspective, which some critics denounced as bias, but it was a slant that attracted and retained viewers. And because of its willingness to take on previously sacrosanct individuals and institutions, the channel engaged its audience’s interest and enjoyed its trust. Same book - conclusion by P. Seib
Public opinion surveys in the Arab world, at the time, repeatedly indicated that Al Jazeera effectively branded itself as an independent and credible media source (Arab Advisors Group, 2004; Auter et al., 2004; Johnson and Fahmy, 2008). Qatar in Egypt: The politics of Al Jazeera
Despite the fact that the channel has been banned by many Arab countries at one point or another, Al Jazeera continues to be the most respected and credible Arab channel. Al Jazeera in the Gulf and in the World (2019), While authors are based in Doha - publisher is Palgrave Macmillan / Springer Nature 🐈Cinaroot 04:57, 30 May 2026 (UTC) Reply

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