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The result of the move request was: Moved — Amakuru (talk) 12:33, 6 October 2022 (UTC) Reply
Akihabara massacre → 2008 Akihabara massacre 2008 Akihabara massacre – Per current naming convention on events (WP:NCEVENTS), adding a when
before the where and what
is desirable in a majority of cases
. I don't see a reason to make an exception for this article. This would also align the article title with other naming convention-compliant Tokyo-related attacks, such as 1974 Mitsubishi Heavy Industries bombing, 2019 Tokyo car attack, and October 2021 Tokyo attack, making this article title WP:CONSISTENT with similar ones and with the List of vehicle-ramming attacks. Pilaz (talk) 13:05, 29 September 2022 (UTC) Reply
- Support per WP:NCEVENTS and WP:CONSISTENT. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:43, 30 September 2022 (UTC) Reply
"Based on Katō's messages, commentators referred to the incident as another case of Japan's hikikomori becoming more violent and suicidal."
This sentence from the article seems wrong to me. Katō was a obviously not a hikikomori - he had a steady job outside his home, for instance. The articles cited as support do not say that he was a hikikomori either, they just cite this case in a more global discussion of the impact of social isolation on violence or suicide. This sentence could be changed to something like "as another case of a lonely person in Japan becoming more violent and suicidal." But then, this is already expressed in the rest of the article and hardly necessary to repeat with three sources here. Should we just remove that sentence? Alestane (talk) 01:50, 14 November 2022 (UTC) Reply
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The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus is that the event is easily described without the year, as required by WP:NCWWW for the title to go without it. (closed by non-admin page mover) ⹃Maltazarian ᚾparley {\displaystyle \lor }investigateᛅ 00:16, 14 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
2008 Akihabara massacre → Akihabara massacre – Why: Adding a year violates WP:NOYEAR as it can be described easily without it. Previous move seemed to be off of a trend of adding years, while neglecting this: when, in historic perspective, the event is easily described without it. Though it is a judgement call for others. The Akihabara massacre was a huge case in Japan, and was one of the few incidents of mass murder recorded in the internet age of Japan. It was a shock to many, since Japan is usually seen as a peaceful country and cases like these shock the country. It can be described easily without the year due to the impact it had. It cna be argued thought it has a year in it when you look it up but the other half describes it without the year in the title. ButteyFelicity (talk) 15:22, 30 May 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. ―Howard • 🌽33 12:32, 6 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Support, per nom, and WP:CONCISE. Other massacres that are recognizable, such as the Boston massacre and Andijan massacre do not have a year unless multiple massacres happened in the same spot at different times.
- Grilledcheeseisgreat ✉ 16:02, 30 May 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Weak support, this one seems well known enough to be described "in historical perspective". PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:33, 1 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I mean yeah. I kinda find the year defeating the purpose of having "massacre" in the title as the word is used for widely known mass murders/killings that everyone agrees was a massacre. ButteyFelicity (talk) 20:20, 1 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Well, in theory those things should correlate, but sometimes we also use it on a whim. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:06, 1 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- "Whim" isn’t really a good idea.... ButteyFelicity (talk) 00:23, 2 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- True! But that doesn't stop anyone. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:07, 5 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- "Whim" isn’t really a good idea.... ButteyFelicity (talk) 00:23, 2 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Well, in theory those things should correlate, but sometimes we also use it on a whim. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:06, 1 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I mean yeah. I kinda find the year defeating the purpose of having "massacre" in the title as the word is used for widely known mass murders/killings that everyone agrees was a massacre. ButteyFelicity (talk) 20:20, 1 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Relisting comment: Relisted by request of Amakuru here ―Howard • 🌽33 12:32, 6 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Oppose. Per WP:NCWWW, the standard format for event articles on Wikipedia is <when> <where> <what>. While there are occasional exceptions to this, as mentioned at WP:NOYEAR, these are rare, and reserved primarily for those events that are overwhelmingly well-known such that a year isn't really necessary to identify the subject. Virginia Tech shooting and Chernobyl disaster for example. While the massacre in Akihabara was no doubt a tragedy, it is not a hugely well-known incident worldwide and should follow the standard format, consistent with the examples presented in the 2022 RM above (1974 Mitsubishi Heavy Industries bombing, 2019 Tokyo car attack, and October 2021 Tokyo attack), and indeed with the recently closed discussion at Talk:2026 White House Correspondents' Dinner shooting#Requested move 9 May 2026. Removing the year here is not beneficial to readers and we should not do so. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 13:08, 6 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Support Calling it just "Akihabara massacre" would be consistent with other recent massacres in Japan (some links are to ja.wiki in there, so caution is warranted), year appears to be used when the place in the title is somewhere like Tokyo. Paris1127 (talk) 15:30, 6 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- It seems like all of those are out of sync with the wider project. Japan shouldn't have its own convention, when the wider convention is governed by WP:NCWWW. See List of massacres in Great Britain where most recent ones have years. — Amakuru (talk) 15:43, 6 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
Strong support as it was the only mass killing in akhiabara.I am not sure why so many of these have years like the Abundant Life Christian School shooting was somehow added a year despite there only being one shooting at the school and that doesn't make sense how year is needed. Xeronic (talk) 23:57, 7 June 2026 (UTC) strike sock Small textReply- Support because the inclusion of the year is misleading. It suggests to the reader that there was another massacre in Akihabara from which this massacre should be disambiguated. Surtsicna (talk) 01:10, 8 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Support because the event appears to have been one of the most shocking crimes in modern Japan and there appears to have been a tremendous impact on Japanese society as well based on my reading of the Japanese version of this article. The crime resulted in restrictions on bladed weapons, bans on the sales of daggers online, a crack down on threats of violence, a positive reaction from certain corners of the Japanese internet to the perpetrator's actions, and it being a main inspiration for other attacks in a historically low-crime nation, such as an attack at a Mazda office. Raskuly 🐰 08:10, 10 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
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