Talk:African Americans

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The article reads, "While some Black immigrants or their children may also come to identify as African American, the majority of first-generation immigrants do not, preferring to identify with their nation of origin."[10][11]

However, the citations listed [10 & 11] do not support this statement and one source actually say the opposite:

"However, as the number of African and Caribbean blacks immigrating to the USA has increased, so have the chances that someone who identifies as black or African American is a first- or second-generation immigrant." -Who is an ‘African American’? Definition evolves as USA does Tracy Scott Forson USA TODAY NETWORK 2018 96.241.225.164 (talk) 07:53, 2 December 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Please help me . As far as I understand "African Americans(AA)" means those "Americans(Citizens of USA)" who had or whose parents had either African citizenship ,or ancestry . Then why make AA= Black Americans(BA)? The term AA is ethnic ?or based on skin?colour or based on ancestry ?

There are "black skin colour people" outside Africa too . So when we say AA why BA is automatically assumed. Example: "IF" a white south african citizen become usa citizen he will be AA but not BA . Similarly those from other continent who fortunately or unfortunately have black skin colour will be BA once become USA citizen even if they are not AA . Mike, the regular nose job (talk) 13:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Hi @Mike, the regular nose job. My understanding of the term African American, refers to decendants of enslaved people. Beyond that, I'm not sure. In UK it's generally Black British. This is because we have black people who originated from all over the world, especially the British colonies. I'm unsure what Americans use for white South Africans? Knitsey (talk) 14:34, 25 December 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Yeah that's the problem.

No disrespect to history of USA or its people or their struggles but the term AA and BA being used as interchangeable, which "I" believe is kinda dumb , you can't equal racial and ethnic optics , those are separate things or so I believe . Mike, the regular nose job (talk) 21:24, 25 December 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Since the subject is African-Americans. shouldn't the description also include "formerly Negroes" too for historical accuracy? 47.146.38.207 (talk) 02:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

We could do a quick analysis of terms used throughout the censuses as seen at....Cohn, D’Vera (2010年01月21日). "Race and the Census: The "Negro" Controversy". Pew Research Center. Retrieved 2025年01月08日. Moxy 🍁 04:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

We are not African-Americans we've been here just as long as white Caucasian Americans and even before then. Thank you 2600:4040:2C91:A200:703E:AFBC:FA77:1022 (talk) 02:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 03:30, 11 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Kamala Harris is the child of immigrants whose parents arrived in America in the early 60s. African Americans are the Descendants of Slavery who arrived in America in 1619 via the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Please remove Kamala Harris from this article. Stop intertwining the American Descendants of Slavery with immigrants! 2601:C4:4401:CC10:E9B3:1C5F:D1AF:1D3D (talk) 05:23, 11 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

You are imposing an overly narrow definition of "African American". She has partial or total ancestry from any of the Black racial groups of Africa. Her father Donald J. Harris was born in Jamaica of African ancestry. You would need to show that most reliable sources do not call her African-American but they widely do, and Wikipedia summarizes what reliable sources say. Cullen328 (talk) 05:46, 11 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

African Americans, Now and Forever known as, Foundational Black Americans, also known as Black American Freedman and formerly also called Colored Americans, are an American racial or ethnic group consisting of Americans with partial or total ancestry from any of the Black melanated racial groups of aboriginal American Indians.[3][4] Foundatinal Black Americans constitute the second largest ethno-racial group in the US after White Americans. The Term African American was given to Black Americans in 1980 by the Democratic Party to make sure Black Americans were compatible to African immigrants. US government used people like Walter plecker to erase the aboriginal Black American population on paper so we would think we are from Africa[5] The term "Foundational Black American" generally denotes descendants of Black Aboriginal Indians enslaved in the United States. [6] Most Foundational Black Americans are descendants of enslaved people within the boundaries of the present day United States 2601:14D:4B84:8480:3853:13DA:CC57:6876 (talk) 07:59, 12 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 18:41, 12 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]