Talk:Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari

We have a clear attempt at insertion of Ash'arite POV here. The last opening of the "Views" section read:

"Muslims consider him to be the founder of the sunni Ash'ari tradition of Aqeedah with followers such as Abul-Hassan Al-Bahili, Abu Bakr Al-Baqillani, Imam Al-Haramain Abul-Ma’ali Al-Juwaini, Al-Razi, an-Nawawi, ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, as-Suyuti and Al-Ghazali."

The given source is Arab News; the link is dead but I found the story at a new address here. It reads:

"Al-Ash’ari thus formulated the theological outlook of Ahl al-Sunnah, and he was followed by a large number of distinguished scholars, most of them belonged to the Shafie school of law. Perhaps the most famous of these are Abul-Hassan Al-Bahili, Abu Bakr Al-Baqillani, Imam Al-Haramain Abul-Ma’ali Al-Juwaini, Al-Razi and Al-Ghazali."

Notice that Nawawi and Ibn Hajr were thrown into this article even though they aren't mentioned in the source. That's because the Ash'arites level a highly contested claim that Nawawi and Ibn Hajr were Ash'arites, despite Ibn Hajr for example refuting Ash'arites by name on at least one occasion. Needless to say, this is a clear violation of either Wikipedia:Neutral point of view or Wikipedia:No original research, depending on the intentions of whoever wrote that bit. I will remove it immediately, in addition to updating the link. MezzoMezzo (talk) 10:53, 27 July 2013 (UTC) Reply

Just noticed that the edit included Suyuti as well - also removed. MezzoMezzo (talk) 10:54, 27 July 2013 (UTC) Reply

There is a movement among the modern Salafi movement to erase details which have been commonly accepted by academics today. I have added sources to the claim An-Nawawi and Al-Ghazali were, in fact, Ash'aris. The claim that they are not has never had any real traction in academic circles and MezzoMezzo has failed to provide a source to the contrary. If you want to remove this, please provide academic sources. DutchManfromtheEast (talk) 13:57, 10 February 2024 (UTC) Reply

Recently a number of text changes were made which made reference to the following sources:

• http://www.asharis.com/creed/series/the-authentication-of-al-ibaanah.cfm
• http://www.thenoblequran.com/sps/sp.cfm?subsecID=gsc06&articleID=AQD060001&articlePages=1
• http://www.abovethethrone.com/arsh/

All 3 of these sources are unreliable fanatical Salafi POV sites that consider all non-Salafis to be heretics and unbelievers. None of the sites have any scholarly or academic credibility. As such, I have reverted the article to it's previous version.RookTaker (talk) 07:28, 11 April 2014 (UTC) Reply

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Hello,

Is there a reliable source for the claim that al-Ash'ari was part of the Shafi'i school of fiqh? I can't seem to find any.

The pages from Seyyed Hossein Nasr's book in the Wiki article about Ash'arism (https://books.google.ca/books?id=Y0ZFkdlCFnYC&pg=PA124&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false, pages 124-126) mention nothing about al-Ash'ari being Shafi'i.

Egypt's Dar Al-Iftaa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Ifta_al-Misriyyah) quotes Qadi Ibn Farhun as saying al-Ash'ari belonged to the Maliki school instead. See https://web.archive.org/web/20250403081027/https://www.dar-alifta.org/en/article/details/119/the-ash%E2%80%99ari%E2%80%99s-school-of-theology OmerMusafir (talk) 16:23, 28 June 2025 (UTC) Reply