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Replace all instances where artificial image generation is referred to as art.

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Latest comment: 4 days ago 9 comments8 people in discussion

Hello, I am of the opinion that this article should be revised so that every mention of artificially generated art, should be amended to read "artificially generated imagery". Other phrases such as "images", "image generation", and ""art"" can be used. And that where the word "artist" is referenced referring to someone who prompts an artificial intelligence model to create imagery, the word "artist" should be replaced with "prompter", as these people do not have a significant enough involvement in the creative process to earn the title of artist. I believe this is necessary as artificially generated pictures are not a form of art, and due to Wikipedia's goal of maintaining accuracy I believe that it is imperative that the article be changed to support this. I'm not going to bother justifying why artificially created "art" is not art, as that is not the point of this talk page. I simply believe that the term "art" used in this page is misleading to the readers. 144.6.121.250 (talk) 05:13, 22 August 2025 (UTC) Reply

no, for two main reasons
  • we're not meant to assume intent with any of those words. the term "art" could be used literally or figuratively, but the article isn't supposed to care about that
  • what we are meant to do is compile what sources say. the sources call it art, the article calls it art
  • what you mentioned two threads up is effectively using wikipedia as a source, and what you mentioned here would be original research, which are... not optimal play
this isn't to say that i agree or disagree with your points about what the piss puddles are or aren't, i actually agree with most of them, just that the way wikipedia works is geared towards not taking any given editor's personal opinion into account in mainspace unless it can be backed up with a source
as is, sources already exist calling it "art", so regardless of whether or not it's to be taken literally, that's the name that stuck, and it's unlikely that future sources with conflicting names will come in droves large and consistent enough to actually get the article renamed, instead of just having a section added about whether or not it should be referred to as "art"
what do you mean those weren't two? consarn (grave) (obituary) 11:13, 22 August 2025 (UTC) Reply
So do you think it's worth adding perhaps a section that mentions all this? Perhaps labelled controversy or something? 58.178.132.192 (talk) 06:45, 23 August 2025 (UTC) Reply
if sources are found, a section like this can and probably will be added. such is the nature of wikipedia~
...or in more pessimistic terms, "maybe not with what we currently have" consarn (grave) (obituary) 23:28, 23 August 2025 (UTC) Reply
Ok I'll just gather sources then. Considering there is plenty. 58.178.131.30 (talk) 00:26, 24 August 2025 (UTC) Reply
About the "the sources call it art, the article calls it art" section. The fact one calls it art does not make it art, because sources can be biased and as such, wrong. That is why one cannot exactly boil it down to "the term "art" could be used literally or figuratively, but the article isn't supposed to care about that", for calling it "art" is factually wrong. Analytic philosophy exists for a reason, the meaning of the words used are meant to be universally understood, agreed upon, and most importantly factual. It is inherently inaccurate to call it art, and if it is not corrected from "art" to "image generation", it misleads readers. While "There is no generally agreed definition of what constitutes art" (from the Wiki page for art), however the article states "Artificial intelligence visual art, or AI art, is visual artwork" but when you check visual artwork's Wiki to which the link redirects, it clearly states "Current usage of the term "visual arts" includes fine art as well as applied or decorative arts and crafts" and excludes generative art. Therefore, I would like to formally request to either edit or rewrite the article regarding AI "art", or "visual arts". I believe for the sake of clarity it is of utmost importance to add some clarity to the AI art page, regardless whether or not someone agrees with my views or not, solely for the sake of clarifying said viewpoints brought up in my comment. Okasawa Michio (talk) 22:25, 9 September 2025 (UTC) Reply
Please have a look at WP:V and WP:NOR. You won't get anywhere on Wikipedia saying that the sources could be wrong so we should rewrite the article based on your personal opinion. MrOllie (talk) 22:28, 9 September 2025 (UTC) Reply
Per WP:NOTSOURCE my understanding is that we're not able to reference other wikipedia articles to determine policy. On whether 'philosophy says...' its completely arbitrary to use one form of reasoning over another. We use sources; See WP:PSTS. And to say 'sources are biased' is just a fact. That doesn't mean they're wrong, even if some positivist philosophy has taught you that its possible to purge bias. In this case you seem to be saying, O. M., that we should ignore what the authority says and rely on what we collectively think. That's not how Wikipedia works. See WP:NOTADEMOCRACY --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 17:33, 21 December 2025 (UTC) Reply
The Artful Dodger is indeed full of art but not the kind concerned with aesthetics. I'd say AI art is roughly equivalent. Arlo James Barnes (pro-∪nion) 01:03, 9 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Automatons?

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Latest comment: 12 days ago 2 comments2 people in discussion

This article seems highly fallacious. How is it going to assert that automatons carried creativity and intelligence? It is a complete misrepresentation of fact. ~2026-52160-3 (talk) 16:22, 24 January 2026 (UTC) Reply

I agree that GenAI images shouldn’t be called art. However, it’s Wikipedia’s job to explain encyclopedic terms. There’s also an article called AI slop if you’d like to read that. 🎆 Brynn Who Likes Editing | talk w/ me! 22:49, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Requested move 11 February 2026

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The result of the move request was: moved. The !vote-count was 8-4 in favor and the opposing arguments based off of MOS:ACROTITLE were adequately rebutted by Wracking, EarthDude, and Qwerty123M. There's also WP:CONCISE for the support !votes, which met no opposition. (closed by non-admin page mover) Iseult Δx talk to me 00:07, 20 March 2026 (UTC) Reply


Artificial intelligence visual artAI art – More common name. None of the sources say "Artificial Intelligence visual art" in their titles.

Note that Dictionary.com lists AI as an adjective but not Artificial Intelligence. Seeing the latter used as an adjective in this article title gives the impression of an out-of-touch style guide. MW (tc) 08:23, 11 February 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 04:15, 18 February 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath talk 04:58, 25 February 2026 (UTC) Reply

Oppose. use full name. avoid to create additional, possible confusion using acronym when the current title is clear already. Cfls (talk) 17:24, 15 February 2026 (UTC) Reply
Weak support per nom + WP:CONCISE. The acronym "AI" primarily refers to artificial intelligence and as noted by nom, "AI" is used as adjective. My reading of guidelines (WP:ACROTITLE and MOS:ACROTITLE) doesn't preclude AI art as title (though AI for Artificial intelligence wouldn't be appropriate). I can't imagine this creating confusion.
I this proposal has a potential issue of scope (WP:PRECISION). Removing "visual" from the title may blur the lines between this article and, e.g., Music and artificial intelligence. I would prefer "AI visual art" over "Artificial intelligence visual art" per nom. We may need a broad-concept article titled something like Art and artificial intelligence that covers all types of art and AI, but that's a separate conversation.
Also noting a related discussion at WP:CFD started by the proposer Wracking talk! 07:12, 18 February 2026 (UTC) Reply
Support - "AI art" is the more common name and it used frequently on social media. Guz13 (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2026 (UTC) Reply
Note: WikiProject Artificial Intelligence, WikiProject Software, WikiProject Computer graphics, WikiProject Technology, WikiProject Computer science, WikiProject Computing, and WikiProject Visual arts have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPath talk 04:58, 25 February 2026 (UTC) Reply
Support: I don't see the reasoning behind not using the AI acronym. AI redirects to Artificial intelligence, as it is the primary topic of that acronym. Furthermore, we already have countless articles which use the AI acronym, such as AI boom, AI slop, and AI bubble. — EarthDude (Talk) 17:09, 6 March 2026 (UTC) Reply
Note: WikiProject Robotics, WikiProject European history, and WikiProject Women in Red have been notified of this discussion. Qwerty123M (talk) 00:55, 7 March 2026 (UTC) Reply
  • Support per WP:CONCISE. An acronym in the title is only a minor barrier to fully understanding the subject of this article and the term "AI" can be explained fully through a short sentence in the lead paragraph. "AI" is a more WP:COMMONTERM in the sources used in this article and social media usage. Given that the term "AI" is used more commonly than artificial intelligence, MOS:ACROTITLE is not a concern to us.

Qwerty123M (talk) 01:09, 7 March 2026 (UTC) Reply

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Wiki Education assignment: Technology and Culture

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Latest comment: 5 months ago 1 comment1 person in discussion

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 15 January 2026 and 1 May 2026. Further details are available on the course page . Student editor(s): Ashelham (article contribs ).

— Assignment last updated by Salink298 (talk) 02:46, 1 March 2026 (UTC) Reply

Split proposal

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Latest comment: 4 days ago 4 comments3 people in discussion
It has been suggested that this page be split out into pages titled AI image and Artificial intelligence and art . (Discuss) (July 2026)

This article talks about two things at once that are intertwined but not the same; that is, the generation of images with AI, and the use of AI for art. Plus, the term "AI art" is contentious; art is often understood as the expression of human emotion, and as such there is debate whether AI-generated works can be called "art". That's why I think this article should be split in two; "AI image" for the technology used in image production, and "Artificial intelligence and art", for the use of such technology in art. DaniPine3 (talk) 19:58, 16 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

OPPOSE This split already exists. "The use of AI for art" is the topic of this article, AI art. "The generation of images with AI" is basically the topic of the article Text-to-image model, which is linked to in the first paragraph of this article. If there is any part of this article that is not about "Ai art" and is instead about the general "generation of images with AI" then that could likely be merged into Text-to-image model or just removed. Asparagusstar (talk) 23:09, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Asparagusstar: The problem is, the redirect Artificial intelligence image generation still exists, which is definitely not the same as AI art, as DaniPine3 pointed out. It should direct to text-to image.Wuerzele (talk) 15:39, 9 August 2026 (UTC) Reply
This proposal is to split this "AI art" article into two new articles. As I said, those two articles already exist, so the proposal really just amounts to changing the names of these articles. If you agree with the proposal here that "Artificial intelligence and art" is a better article title then "AI art" and you agree that "AI image" is a better title than "Text-to-image model," then maybe just put a bold "support" in front of your comment. I have added a bold "oppose" in front of mine. Asparagusstar (talk) 17:50, 9 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

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