Talk:2026 Turkey tornado outbreak

The report is updated.The tornado has a 790 m width and a 27.1 km path length.However,in your draft it says 650 m path width and 26.7 km path length.Please update it so it could match the new report. ⚡StormL00ver⚡ 09:41, 19 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Also this article is about the Turkey-Syria Outbreak so you shouldn't inculude the tornado that hapened in France ⚡StormL00ver⚡ 06:04, 21 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

I have removed the France tornado and have made a couple other small changes. HurricaneMelissaFan (talk) 11:48, 21 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Can somebody add this article to the Tornadoes of 2026 category? Loaf5979 (talk) 11:33, 24 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

So User:StormL00ver and I have been discussing on my talk page whether this page should be described as "significant", "major" or "violent". I personally feel like "significant" is most applicable given most of the tornadoes were of IF2 strength, and the outbreak did not achieve a score of 30 on the Outbreak Intensity Score, and wouldn't even if the IF3 is indeed upgraded to IF4. As for the "violent" descriptor, I would hesitate to call almost any outbreak a "violent" outbreak unless it had multiple violent tornadoes from different supercells, or at a minimum at least one violent-rated tornado along with several high-end intense rated (EF3 or equivalent) rated tornadoes that plausibly could have been violent rated. Examples of events I would call "violent outbreaks" would be last year's mid-march outbreak, or 3/31/2023. One of the exceptions to this where for just one supercell producing EF4 tornado(es) would be 12-10-2021, for obvious reasons, but this outbreak was not a case of being that high-level exceptional. I would appreciate if anyone else would chime in on this, as I'd like to avoid an edit war. AutisticYapper (talk) 16:27, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

I'm not trying to start an edit war nor I will.I just want to say that scientificly and IF3 tornado wont get the same points as an EF3's OIS score.IF3 should be converted to an EF scale counterpart then it should be rated in the OIS score system. ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 16:34, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Also akçamezra and viranşehir tornadoes had windspeeds equal to an EF3 or higher so this outbreak should be classified as a ''Violent'' outbreak. ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 16:37, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

And as I said on my talk page, what I feel like you are missing about the different tornado scales is that a mid-rage IF3 with winds rated at 180 mph doesn't actually have a higher damage rating than a mid-range EF3 with windspeeds of 150-155 mph, they just view the damage as requiring higher windspeeds needed to reach said damage. Hence why we don't list the 2021 South Moravia tornado as being the sole strongest rated tornado of 2021 (as the raw windspeeds of both the IF and F scales would seem to suggest), and instead list it alongside the Newnan, Monette-Samburg, and Western Kentucky tornadoes as all being the highest rated tornadoes of the year. Anyway, this is the last thing imma say on this for now, I just wanted to better illustrate my point to those reading here who don't wanna go look at the discussion on my talk page. AutisticYapper (talk) 16:41, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

More specifically, the IF scale uses instantaneous wind measurements, while the EF scale uses a 3 second average for wind speed, leading to the IF scale having higher wind measurements for the same damage. Mesocyclonic93 ^(t)_(c) 12:33, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

IF scale also has tables for 3 second measurements which still makes this outbreak ''violent'' ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 12:51, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Also the Normal IF table isnt instantaneous winds it is the rating given by calculating damage ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 12:52, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

so the normal table is the same as the EF table in terms of windspeeds ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 12:54, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

still,Just because this tornado hit concrete houses instead of wooden houses doesnt mean that this tornado was less destructive ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 16:50, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

2026 Turkey tornado outbreak → 2026 Upper Mesopotamia tornado outbreak – more descriptive of the affected area and inclusive of other areas than just Turkey (ie N Syria) ~2026-42103-02 (talk) 02:50, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

• Is Gaziantep Province generally considered to be in Mesopotamia or not? Is Aleppo Governorate? I'm not familiar enough to say with any confidence. Certainly Cyprus isn't, though I can understand if you think Cyprus isn't significant enough to include. I am thinking it may be simpler to just list the countries in the title, like 2026 Syria–Turkey tornado outbreak . Adumbrativus (talk) 05:14, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

  See, I originally made the article with the title "2026 Middle East tornado outbreak" then "2026 Syria–Turkey tornado outbreak" but since most tornadoes were in Turkey and most coverage on the event is strictly Turkish, i changed the title just to include turkey. ELLEWEATHERRRR (talk) 18:42, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Can you find any English language source which refers to this outbreak as having occurred in "Mesopotamia" let alone "Upper Mesopotamia"? The name belongs to a historical region, not really used commonly now. Not sure yet about Adumbrativus' suggestion, but worth some thought and also follows the desired alphabetical order. Raskuly 🐰 06:22, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

  there's not much english coverage of the event, and i really wouldn't say theres a 'common name' for the outbreak. Yobatna (talk) 20:00, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

  Mesopotamia isn't used in what English-language coverage I found, and even translating articles they don't use the term "Mesopotamia". Raskuly 🐰 20:59, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

• Oppose. Most maps i can see, Gaziantep Province and Aleppo Governorate aren't in Mesopotamia, and i agree with Raskuly on why it shouldn't be called "2026 Upper Mesopotamia tornado outbreak". Most if not all coverage on the event is Turkish so that's what i settled with.

ELLEWEATHERRRR (talk) 18:47, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

i'd support, it looks like most of the areas affected, besides cyprus, would probably be considered upper mesopotamia (see maps), and i agree that using "turkey" is non-descriptive since turkey is a pretty big country and this outbreak was very localized. Turkey-Syria outbreak would also probably be better than just Turkey Yobatna (talk) 19:40, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

actually having thought about it for a bit longer, you are probably right ELLEWEATHERRRR (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

• Oppose Only 2 tornadoes hapened on syria so just calling it 2026 turkey outbreak would be better in my opinion ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 06:58, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

  Also Upper Mesopotamia is far too wide for an outbreak this localized ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 09:47, 3 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Support as per @Yobatna AutisticYapper (talk) 22:02, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply