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Latest comment: 4 months ago by Doctorindy in topic Drivers finishing lap(s) down
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Logo?

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Latest comment: 1 year ago 1 comment1 person in discussion

The New logo has been revealed for over a year now, still not in the page, should be added IMO. Superyassi362 (talk) 16:39, 23 April 2025 (UTC) Reply

Shwartzman nationality

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Latest comment: 1 year ago 2 comments1 person in discussion

Why is he listed as Palestinian?? He was born in Israel and the town he was born in is still Israeli. AND he is still listed as Israeli in the entry list 98.179.80.173 (talk) 16:57, 25 May 2025 (UTC) Reply

It’s been fixed, thank you 98.179.80.173 (talk) 17:00, 25 May 2025 (UTC) Reply

Drivers finishing lap(s) down

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Latest comment: 4 months ago 4 comments3 people in discussion

Drivers who finish a lap down or more are normally listed with a leading negative sign (e.g. -1 lap) in race results, not a positive sign (e.g. +1 lap). I checked the table in the Box score section of Indianapolis 500 articles going back to 2000, and they're listed with a negative sign, except for the 2023, 2024, and 2025 articles. As such, I corrected this error in the three articles, but my edit to the 2025 article was reverted, with the justification of per consensus. Can someone please point me to the consensus and/or provide an opinion? Assadzadeh (talk) 01:24, 28 May 2025 (UTC) Reply

Officially there is no designation in the box score results. Cars that are laps down don't have a delta to the winner. The -X lap(s) phenomenon seems to be limited to American motorsport, and can be found used on the FOX graphics package. Presumably then, the consensus comes from the wider motorsport world, in particular FIA series wherein lapped down cars are officially +X lap(s) (Monaco thankfully gives a great example of this). 🇮🇪 TheChrisD {💬|✏️} 18:56, 28 May 2025 (UTC) Reply
Thank you @TheChrisD for the feedback. Thank you @Doctorindy for making the changes to the Box score to be consistent with the other Indianapolis 500 articles. Assadzadeh (talk) 16:02, 29 May 2025 (UTC) Reply
Follow up. Box scores for U.S.-based series (including Indianapolis 500) have always typically designated cars' margins as (+)TIME H:MM:SS when they are on the lead lap or completed the full distance. It makes sense because their finishing time is longer than the winner's time, thus the "+". And when they are a lap more more down, it's typically always been a with a negative sign. (e.g., -1 lap). Using a (+) for laps behind makes no sense because it implies it's more laps than the leader. The trailing cars completed less laps than the leader, therefore it should should be minus. How F1 does it can be how F1 does it, IndyCar/Indy 500 does not necessarily have to conform. i think it should stay (+)time and (-)lap. Nearly all 109 Indianapolis 500 race articles have now been worked on to add the respective margins. DoctorindyTalk 13:47, 17 March 2026 (UTC) Reply

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