Talk:Élie, duc Decazes

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His title was not duc DE Decazes

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Élie Decazes was NOT the duc DE Decazes. He was the duc Decazes. In the Peerage of France, family names (unless dependent on the name of a fiefdom) were not given the extra "de" in between the rank and the name associated with the rank. Decazes is a family name and not a fiefdom. Because of this no "de" was included in his new title. A similar case in point is Hortense Mancini. Her husband was specifically made the duc Mazarin and not duc de Mazarin because Mazarin was a family name and not the name of an appanage. The title of this article needs to be moved. BoBo (talk) 23:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

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This bio notice seems contradictory with most French sources, especially regarding pedigree and alliances.

Remains questionable to me

marek2

Marek2 (talk) 17:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Sorry, I made a confusion between Elie Decazes and Pierre Elysée Decazes.

I withdraw my comment.

marek2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marek2 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Last edited at 13:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 11:22, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

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