User talk:EaglesFan37

Rainsage (talk) 05:42, 11 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Hello, please note that this means you should not be editing anything related to the Arab-Israeli conflict, as you recently did here [1]. Rainsage (talk) 02:03, 13 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Sorry, I didn't realize that. EaglesFan37 (talk) 02:24, 13 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

no worries. once you have 500 edits and have been on the site for 30 days, you can start editing in this topic area. Rainsage (talk) 02:48, 13 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Now that you are ECR, I suggest adding Template:ct/aware ← Metallurgist (talk) 05:19, 13 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

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Information icon Hello, I'm Kline. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) personon Dafna Hochman Rand, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Kline • talk • contribs 21:14, 19 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@[[User:Kline|Kline]Does that apply to adding people to categories? My edit was moving Dafna Hochman Rand from "American Women in Politics" to "Jewish American Women in Politics." Hochman Rand is Jewish, but the only way to definitively confirm that is through this:https://issuu.com/jewishnews/docs/jjn_oct_13/17, which can be verified as her in this: https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/cdc9f436-067f-47c9-59e5-58030dc0ec9a/020824_Rand_Testimony.pdf. EaglesFan37 (talk) 21:37, 19 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@EaglesFan37 I would argue so, since there is no content in the article supporting the claim that she is Jewish, and of course, being Jewish is a contentious topic nowadays in American politics. You can add those sources in the article; that would probably be fair at that point to add the category. Cheers, Kline • talk • contribs 21:41, 19 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@EaglesFan37 yes, it applies to categories too. Pretty much everything related to a person's identity needs to be cited in a WP:BLP. It looks like you're doing a good job citing most of your edits now but you still have a few like this one (which I undid) where no source is given and there is nothing in the existing article that verifies she is Jewish. Jamedeus (talk) 03:19, 22 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Jamedeus The issue with the Darcia Grayber article is that I can't cite the source.

https://content.civicplus.com/api/assets/8e195b66-7e92-4e95-85b1-e8deb9ad78a9?cache=1800. This clearly states that she is Jewish, but wikipedia doesn't accept this type of file as a citation. EaglesFan37 (talk) 03:25, 22 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

I don't see a problem with that source, its an official statement from the mayor of a large city in her district. Yes it would nice if the URL wasn't a CDN but that's just how it goes for local politicians sometimes (only took me 15 seconds to find it linked on their .gov). You can use Template:Cite web for PDFs, there are even optional fields to label them.

Feel free to add it back, just make sure you have a cited statement in personal life saying she's Jewish in addition to the category. Jamedeus (talk) 04:09, 22 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Please stop using Wikipedia:Bare URLs and go through your contributions to fix all bare URLs you’ve added. You can use the cite web feature to automatically fill out your references. Bare URLs are uninformative to readers and vulnerable to link rot.

Thanks, aesurias (talk) 05:17, 24 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@AesuriasI can go back and fix it, but is there any easy way to tell which of my edits have Bare URLS? EaglesFan37 (talk) 05:19, 24 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

The link I sent shows examples of bare URLs. You will just need to go through manually but I’d say almost all of them (at least for politics/election pages) based off the select number of edits I’ve seen. See Wikipedia:CITEWEB for a guide on how references should be formatted. aesurias (talk) 05:24, 24 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@AesuriasI'll try to get it done over the next few days. EaglesFan37 (talk) 05:27, 24 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Thanks! aesurias (talk) 05:28, 24 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@AesuriasI tried to start fixing some, but the main issue is that I'm not sure how to have it automatically fill out when it's in an endorsement box. I'll try to figure that out. EaglesFan37 (talk) 06:19, 24 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Use the cite web dropdown feature. It doesn’t matter that it’s in an endorsements box.

@Yoblyblob could you describe this better for me as I’m on mobile edit and it doesn’t show for me?

Thanks both! aesurias (talk) 06:26, 24 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

The dropdown only appears on source editing, but I find it to be the best. I would recommend trying to regularly use source editing if you do not already. When on it, the top of the editor box has different buttons, clicking on cite shows a row just below it, where you can click the template button, followed by cite web. I have found that to be the best way at least for me Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 17:00, 24 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Aesurias@Yoblyblob I've fixed the Bare URLS for Arizona and California. It will take me a few days to get through all the rest of the states. EaglesFan37 (talk) 18:08, 24 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Thanks! i'll try work on some other ones. aesurias (talk) 23:18, 24 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

it's actually optional to fill in Bare URLs, but it would be nice and is a good skill to learn. Rainsage (talk) 21:58, 25 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

I never claimed anything to the contrary. But after I saw hundreds of edits to election pages, all with bare URLs and most with duplication (so that the same bare URL would show up many times in the ref list), I decided to initiate this conversation. aesurias (talk) 22:00, 25 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

great. so we are all on the same page. Rainsage (talk) 22:04, 25 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Rainsage@Aesurias. I've already fixed it for Arizona, California, Colorado, Colorado, Connecticut, and Massachusetts. EaglesFan37 (talk) 22:37, 25 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

That's great! I've been working on some where I see them, including on some of the Arizona pages. It may be helpful to copy out a template for each group and save them so you can just copy and paste (i.e. for J Street just copy out one example of the Cite web template for it, and then you don't need to manually do it each time) aesurias (talk) 22:54, 25 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Aesurias I already have it memorized for J Street, Jewish Democratic Council of America, etc.

The main pages left would be Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Virginia, although there are some on other articles as well. EaglesFan37 (talk) 22:57, 25 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

I just fixed the Nevada, Virginia & Oregon House pages, I will work on the others. Thanks for letting me know aesurias (talk) 23:00, 25 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Aesurias There are still other pages that would have some here or there, those are just the most prominent that I can recall. I can work through them throughout the week. EaglesFan37 (talk) 23:09, 25 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

It's okay if it's just a few things. Myself and other users will come across them and fix when we see them, so don't stress or anything. :) aesurias (talk) 23:23, 25 November 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Thilio. The two links that are from "Vanderbilt Commodores" are from the Vanderbilt Commodores section of Sports Illustrated's website (Called Vanderbilt Commodores on Sports Illustrated, although , though I think the automatic citations just shortened it to Vanderbilt Commodores.

Full Links to clearly show the Sports Illustrated part:

https://www.si.com/college/vanderbilt/football/randon-fontenette-is-back-for-a-second-act-at-vanderbilt-and-he-s-not-content-with-the-results-of-his-first-one

https://www.si.com/college/vanderbilt/rambo-team-randon-fontenette-emerging-leader-vanderbilt-secondary

Since those sources are from Sports Illustrated, would those (along with the Utah Utes from Sports Illustrated, The Tennessean, Desert News, and Fort-Worth Star Telegram, would that be enough to meet notability? EaglesFan37 (talk) 16:23, 3 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

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Hope that helps :). If you've got any more questions, ask away. GoldRomean (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Thank you! EaglesFan37 (talk) 18:19, 3 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

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Welcome to ECR! you have a lot of good contributions, so glad to have you finally. Remember to stay level headed and work with other editors, even if you disagree. As you know, PIA is very contentious, and discretion is important. Many editors have crossed the line and sadly been restricted. I dont think you are doing anything wrong, but I wanted you to be aware. :) And finally, thanks so much for getting all of those pictures. Yeoman effort, or menschen effort as might be said in Yiddish. A lot of them could use a further crop, if you arent sure how to do that on Commons, I will get on it when I can. ← Metallurgist (talk) 05:23, 13 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Metallurgist Thank you!

About the photos, some of the photos I was hesitant to crop more because it ended up making the photo too small. Also, I ran into an issue with a lot of the photos being nominated for deletion to copyright issues (didn't realize that cropping Wikimedia commons photos to only show the "Bring Them Home Now" poster was a copyright issue). EaglesFan37 (talk) 05:58, 13 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Yea, be careful with that. Dont want you to get blocked for copyvio. I am planning to reach out to the Hostages Forum for help with getting good photos released. I just havent had the time and just getting over a nasty illness. I should really make that a priority, as that is what will bring the list to FL status, along with completing every box. ← Metallurgist (talk) 06:11, 13 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Metallurgist I'm probably done doing photos for the time being in order to be safe, but I can try to fill in birthdays and more citizenships down the line (albeit a lot of that information at this point is likely going to be found on social media, which isn't an acceptable wikipedia source.

I can also try to make more articles for individual hostages, but I'm running into issues about which hostages merit stand-alone articles and which ones should be grouped together. The hostage families with one more particularly covered hostage member (Cunios, Siegels, Shohams, Kaldeorns,etc) are particularly challenging. Then there is the Goldstein-Almog family, which has enough coverage for an article, but that family had the father and eldest child killed on 10/7, so not sure how that effects the article. A lot of articles are being made by users right now (I did one for Arbel Yehoud, other users new ones for Gadi Moses, Avinatan Or, and Elkana Bohbot (Bohbot's article has very serious copyvio issues).

I'll start on an article for Avigail Idan soon (since that one should be relatively straightforward). EaglesFan37 (talk) 06:32, 13 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Metallurgist About the pictures, essentially every photo that wasn't of an actual person or a mural of a child taken hostage was nominated for deletion. There are some photos not on wikipedia that should be usable (such as the photo of Joe Biden holding Avigail Idan, since White House photos are public domain).

I'll try to get articles for Avigail Idan and Amit Soussana done in the next few days, but I'm not sure how many more hostages can receive articles before notability concerns start popping up (around 10% of the hostages already have articles). EaglesFan37 (talk) 05:01, 16 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Which were nominated for deletion? Are they gone already or pending? We are going to have issues with that kind of thing until we can get good photos and releases for them. I still need to work on that notability list to help guide creation... Some are going to not make it, but we will do what we can. As much as I wish I started this in 2023, there are some things that are easier now with this. ← Metallurgist (talk) 01:07, 17 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Metallurgist

I removed all those nominated for deletion, which were any cropped hostage poster. They are still pending on Wikimedia.

In my opinion, the most particularly notable ones left are:

David Cunio: Prior Career as Actor, Film With Wikipedia Article Made About Him (A Letter To David), Coverage Specific to Him.

Guy Gilboa-Dalal: Has Coverage Specific to Him due to appearances in two different Hamas videos, testified about sexual abuse in captivity.

Keith & Aviva Siegel: Have been covered/interviewed by basically every major American outlet at this point in time.

Amit Soussana: First Hostage to testify about sexual abuse, received International Women of Courage Award from U.S. State department

Avigail Idan: Received significant coverage at the time of her captivity due to the circumstances (Orphaned toddler with American citizen) and still has update articles to the day

Emily Hand: Received a lot of coverage at the time due to originally being declared dead (with father's reaction going viral) to being discovered to be alive, some coverage since

Ran Gvili: Last remaining hostage and has received significant coverage for that.

In all honesty, basically every hostage received some sort of TOI/JPost coverage and likely could have an argument be made for, but I'm not sure if that's the way to go down, especially if there isn't a specific notability trigger for that hostage. Some of the ones that currently exist could possibily fail an AFD if someone cared to file one (Elkana Bohbot would get removed for copyvio, Avinatan Or, Bar Kupershtein, and Matan Angrest could be at risk for notability). EaglesFan37 (talk) 03:03, 17 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

I think there are more than these that could pass, but its a question of which. Some of the Thai hostages received ongoing coverage in various media. Why would that one fail copyvio? And what are the issues with the others. We can try to rectify those issues. It might be worth pointing out concerns on the TP for what "needs improvement". ← Metallurgist (talk) 04:00, 17 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Metallurgist Elkana Bohbot would be at risk because there are two sources with 40+% similarity, and a lot of the article is quotes. I've already tagged that page. Looking over Bar Kupershtein, there are two sources with other 45% similarities.

As for Matan Angrest, Bar Kupershtein, and Avinatan Or, the issue is that I'm not sure they would meet notability.

I can't really check sourcing for Matan Angrest and Avinatan Or because those pages are just translated from Hebrew wiki. Matan Angrest's article features a lot of quotes and if it comes down to an AFD about notability (where being a hostage isn't enough), there isn't a particular notability trigger that could be used to justify the article.

As for Avinatan Or, again I cannot read the Hebrew sources, but most of the coverage/mentions I've seen regarding him seem to be that he's Noa Argamani's boyfriend, and that most of the coverage on him usually is a piece that prominently features/is about Noa. It's to the extent that when he was released, news coverage showing hostage reunions sometimes's didn't even refer to him by name (which probably does not matter for wikipedia, but just how he seems to be viewed as 'Noa Argamani's boyfriend.'

Some of the Thai hostages could possibly pass (I know Sriaroun Watchara received BBC coverage a few times), but WP:SIGCOV is going to be very difficult. EaglesFan37 (talk) 06:13, 17 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Also on that note, I’m not sure how Yannai and Liel Hetzroni have separate stand-alone articles. EaglesFan37 (talk) 06:23, 17 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

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