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Revert "gnu: texinfo: Build from git." #8396

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Yelninei commented

2026年05月06日 13:23:37 +02:00

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When updating the default texinfo to texinfo-7 git-fetch introduces a ciruclar
dependency with glibc and gnutls.

Partially reverts commit fdbe8b80a8.

See #4058 (comment)

texinfo is needed to build glibc manual and for gnutls.

Using git-fetch introduces a circular dependency with git-minimal without builtin:git-download and also introduces a lot of dependencies needed to run autoreconf.

Building from a tarball should make this easier especially in commencement.scm

When updating the default texinfo to texinfo-7 git-fetch introduces a ciruclar dependency with glibc and gnutls. Partially reverts commit fdbe8b80a8b3b7f045e03005b38035dff6c78f73. See https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/pulls/4058#issuecomment-14372855 texinfo is needed to build glibc manual and for gnutls. Using git-fetch introduces a circular dependency with git-minimal without `builtin:git-download` and also introduces a lot of dependencies needed to run autoreconf. Building from a tarball should make this easier especially in commencement.scm

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Results of evaluation 511026 for commit fbcb3fa2864c196d6db0b9961f3b48b04bff2f08:

Successfully built 2 packages: info-reader-7.3, texinfo-7.3

Results of evaluation [511026](https://pulls.ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/511026) for commit fbcb3fa2864c196d6db0b9961f3b48b04bff2f08: - Successfully built 2 packages: [`info-reader-7.3`](https://pulls.ci.guix.gnu.org/build/2951970/details), [`texinfo-7.3`](https://pulls.ci.guix.gnu.org/build/2951969/details)

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2026年05月08日 18:46:13 +02:00

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@Yelninei Maybe revert it on core-packages-team alone? And there we can guix style -S git-source texinfo@6.

@Yelninei Maybe revert it on `core-packages-team` alone? And there we can `guix style -S git-source texinfo@6`.

Yelninei commented

2026年05月08日 19:16:47 +02:00

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The need is sort of dependant on using texinfo-7 as the default texinfo, so far this is only on my branch. Do you think that is a good idea? And then also change the inheritance order

And there we can guix style -S git-source texinfo@6

We'd still need texinfo 6 for the really early glibc because we dont have C99 yet, Not sure what to do about that.
Using a texinfo@6 from git with all the autotools dependencies is probably going to be a problem regardless of builtin:git-download.

The need is sort of dependant on using texinfo-7 as the default texinfo, so far this is only on my branch. Do you think that is a good idea? And then also change the inheritance order > And there we can guix style -S git-source texinfo@6 We'd still need texinfo 6 for the really early glibc because we dont have C99 yet, Not sure what to do about that. Using a texinfo@6 from git with all the autotools dependencies is probably going to be a problem regardless of builtin:git-download.

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2026年05月08日 22:26:22 +02:00

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Ah indeed. Well, at any rate, I would target core-packages-team. As you suggest, let’s keep both Texinfo 6 and 7 with url-fetch there, and you can add the patch that switches the default Texinfo as well.

Does that make sense?

Ah indeed. Well, at any rate, I would target `core-packages-team`. As you suggest, let’s keep both Texinfo 6 and 7 with `url-fetch` there, and you can add the patch that switches the default Texinfo as well. Does that make sense?

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Yelninei commented

2026年05月10日 17:13:22 +02:00

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I looked at it again what goes wrong in commencent with texinfo-7. Configure sets CC to gcc -std=c11 correctly.

However same as #7086 (comment) texinfo overwrites the CC for the perl extension by using the CC that was used to compile perl aka just gcc which does not default to c99 so it breaks.

Disabling the perl extension with --disable-perl-xs allows it to build in commencement as well.

I think it will use the bundled perl modules for commencement or should we rebuild these as well? We only need texinfo for the glibc manual

Could we remove the older texinfos then?

texinfo-5 is needed for old manual
texinfo-6 is unused with that change.

Both require a patch to build with the perl update (which prompted this entire investigation in the first place)

PS: Could you rebase core-packages-team again

@civodul I looked at it again what goes wrong in commencent with texinfo-7. Configure sets `CC` to `gcc -std=c11` correctly. However same as https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/pulls/7086#issuecomment-11571376 texinfo overwrites the CC for the perl extension by using the CC that was used to compile perl aka just `gcc` which does not default to c99 so it breaks. Disabling the perl extension with `--disable-perl-xs` allows it to build in commencement as well. I think it will use the bundled perl modules for commencement or should we rebuild these as well? We only need texinfo for the glibc manual Could we remove the older texinfos then? texinfo-5 is needed for old manual texinfo-6 is unused with that change. Both require a patch to build with the perl update (which prompted this entire investigation in the first place) PS: Could you rebase core-packages-team again

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Yelninei commented

2026年05月10日 17:16:20 +02:00

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I removed the texinfo-7 symbol as well.

I guess that would need to be properly deprecated together with the older texinfos

(in general i am not a huge fan of these versioned symbols)

I removed the texinfo-7 symbol as well. I guess that would need to be properly deprecated together with the older texinfos (in general i am not a huge fan of these versioned symbols)

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2026年05月10日 17:28:50 +02:00

Update perl to 5.42.0 #8503

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2026年05月16日 14:10:51 +02:00

gnu: texinfo: Add required gawk runtime dependency. #8108

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