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opened 2026年03月31日 12:10:25 +02:00 by yoyo34 · 10 comments
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Now that Maptiler is no longer in use, the question arises as to which satellite layer can be used. The IGN layer is only for France and is therefore not suitable anymore, as Cartes is going international. Hosting freely available images is too expensive.
The best solution would be to use ESRI. The licence is fairly open and allows every OSM editor (of which Cartes is one) to use it, as do other FOSS projects such as Bikerouter, OsmApp, Streetcomplete and MapComplete. The question now is how to implement it. How should national/local satellite layers like IGN be handled?

Now that Maptiler is no longer in use, the question arises as to which satellite layer can be used. The IGN layer is only for France and is therefore not suitable anymore, as Cartes is going international. Hosting freely available images is too expensive. The best solution would be to use ESRI. The licence is fairly open and allows every OSM editor (of which Cartes is one) to use it, as do other FOSS projects such as Bikerouter, OsmApp, Streetcomplete and MapComplete. The question now is how to implement it. How should national/local satellite layers like IGN be handled?
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Now that Maptiler is no longer in use

It is !

The IGN layer is only for France and is therefore not suitable anymore

No, it's more complicated than that. IGN has worlwide coverage but for low zoom. Maptiler completes the offer for high zoom.

IGN's definition in any other zone than France is very low (Sentinel-2) @bristow

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So we designed a custom maplibre protocol (CustomRasterProtocol.ts) to dynamically switch from IGN to MapLibre when necessary, in order to reduce the costs of the paid maplibre subscription, that costs between 30 and 80 with our relatively low user count.

Expect 1000 €/month bill when we scale :/

> Now that Maptiler is no longer in use It is ! > The IGN layer is only for France and is therefore not suitable anymore No, it's more complicated than that. IGN has worlwide coverage but for low zoom. Maptiler completes the offer for high zoom. IGN's definition in any other zone than France is very low (Sentinel-2) @bristow ![image](/attachments/440d1800-19a0-4030-bba7-8132cc778e03) So we designed a custom maplibre protocol (CustomRasterProtocol.ts) to dynamically switch from IGN to MapLibre when necessary, in order to reduce the costs of the paid maplibre subscription, that costs between 30 and 80 *with our relatively low user count*. Expect 1000 €/month bill when we scale :/
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The best solution would be to use ESRI. The licence is fairly open and allows every OSM editor (of which Cartes is one) to use it, as do other FOSS projects such as Bikerouter, OsmApp, Streetcomplete and MapComplete.

Are you sure it can be used for non-editing purposes ? Can you share the link to an official source where this is mentioned ? What about precision, is it as good as Maptiler ?

> The best solution would be to use ESRI. The licence is fairly open and allows every OSM editor (of which Cartes is one) to use it, as do other FOSS projects such as Bikerouter, OsmApp, Streetcomplete and MapComplete. Are you sure it can be used for non-editing purposes ? Can you share the link to an official source where this is mentioned ? What about precision, is it as good as Maptiler ?
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So you intend to use Maptiler Satellite for high zoom? Cause currently it's not the case.

What about precision, is it as good as Maptiler?

Yeah I think so, resolution is < 1 m:
The map features Maxar imagery at 0.3m resolution for select metropolitan areas around the world, 0.5m resolution across the United States and parts of Western Europe, and 1m resolution imagery across the rest of the world (Source).

License is here and it's also described in the OSM Wiki.
Based on this license you could freely use the layer because vector data for OSM is created with cartes. However due to OSM Wiki it's anyway free to use if you have less than 1 million tiles/month requests and the app is non-commercial. I guess thats the reason also other non-OSM FOSS projects use it.

WMTS Link | TMS Link

So you intend to use Maptiler Satellite for high zoom? Cause currently it's not the case. >What about precision, is it as good as Maptiler? Yeah I think so, resolution is < 1 m: _The map features Maxar imagery at 0.3m resolution for select metropolitan areas around the world, 0.5m resolution across the United States and parts of Western Europe, and 1m resolution imagery across the rest of the world_ ([Source](https://services.arcgisonline.com/ArcGIS/rest/services/World_Imagery/MapServer/0)). License is [here](https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=8e90a00a0a6845a49262e0b756f57a10) and it's also described in the [OSM Wiki](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Esri). Based on this license you could freely use the layer because vector data for OSM is created with cartes. However due to OSM Wiki it's anyway free to use if you have less than 1 million tiles/month requests and the app is non-commercial. I guess thats the reason also other non-OSM FOSS projects use it. [WMTS ](https://services.arcgisonline.com/arcgis/rest/services/World_Imagery/MapServer/WMTS/1.0.0/WMTSCapabilities.xml)Link | [TMS ](https://qms.nextgis.com/geoservices/1300)Link
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Oouuuuu thanks ! "Key usage restricted - Get your FREE key at https://cloud.maptiler.com/account/keys/"

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Oouuuuu thanks ! "Key usage restricted - Get your FREE key at https://cloud.maptiler.com/account/keys/" Something went wrong.
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Just deployed with a new key

Just deployed with a new key
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Thanks for the info about the license ! It looks like Esri is US-based, though. That's a problem for our project :/

Thanks for the info about the license ! It looks like Esri is US-based, though. That's a problem for our project :/
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Discussed in another thread : there is not free high-resolution satellite tiles available...

but ! A NLnet grant should fix this. #2072 (comment)

Discussed in another thread : there is not free high-resolution satellite tiles available... **but** ! A NLnet grant should fix this. https://codeberg.org/cartes/web/issues/2072#issuecomment-14020787
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There might be a usable source online !!
Could let us remove this feature from the paid features incoming.
https://masto.ai/@bovine3dom/116699312385558051

There might be a usable source online !! Could let us remove this feature from the paid features incoming. https://masto.ai/@bovine3dom/116699312385558051
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No, https://mastodon.social/@maeool/116712844936042273

For tracking this, Mapterhorn imagery project (discussion, post) funded by NLNet mentioned here and there.

For tracking this, Mapterhorn imagery project ([discussion](https://github.com/mapterhorn/mapterhorn/issues/139), [post](https://nlnet.nl/project/Mapterhorn-imagery/)) funded by NLNet mentioned [here](https://codeberg.org/cartes/web/issues/2072#issuecomment-14020787) and [there](https://codeberg.org/cartes/web/issues/1055#issuecomment-16556153).
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