moving flour from breadmaking to mortar and pestle type #1206

lili36 commented 2025年05月10日 15:17:52 +02:00

Do we do that ? could be more logical (in a context with exile_meals).
The logic would be that "mortar_and_pestle" is the "crunch things" tab (and coul be renamed), while the second one is the "mix with water" part for doughs (could be renamed to)

As player, I made that proposal because flour and dough look alsmot the same so it was confusing for me.
PR is ready if we want to...

Do we do that ? could be more logical (in a context with exile_meals). The logic would be that "mortar_and_pestle" is the "crunch things" tab (and coul be renamed), while the second one is the "mix with water" part for doughs (could be renamed to) As player, I made that proposal because flour and dough look alsmot the same so it was confusing for me. PR is ready if we want to...

TPH commented 2025年05月10日 21:01:43 +02:00

I disagree since the overall crafting is small and I don't think we should pollute crafting stations with what I believe are unnecessary... Uhh I forget their names again, crafting sections?

Sure they look similar but I disagree that they should be separated. There was that idea of yours a while back to add inventory images for them IIRC and that would be preferable

I disagree since the overall crafting is small and I don't think we should pollute crafting stations with what I believe are unnecessary... Uhh I forget their names again, crafting sections? Sure they look similar but I disagree that they should be separated. There was that idea of yours a while back to add inventory images for them IIRC and that would be preferable

lili36 commented 2025年05月12日 17:46:23 +02:00

@TPH wrote in #1206 (comment):

I disagree since the overall crafting is small and I don't think we should pollute crafting stations with what I believe are unnecessary... Uhh I forget their names again, crafting sections?

Sure they look similar but I disagree that they should be separated. There was that idea of yours a while back to add inventory images for them IIRC and that would be preferable

I don't understand what you say, it IS in crafting station already ? it si more about logic : 1 tab to "crush" one tab to mix.

@TPH wrote in https://codeberg.org/Mantar/Exile/pulls/1206#issuecomment-4429784: > I disagree since the overall crafting is small and I don't think we should pollute crafting stations with what I believe are unnecessary... Uhh I forget their names again, crafting sections? > > Sure they look similar but I disagree that they should be separated. There was that idea of yours a while back to add inventory images for them IIRC and that would be preferable I don't understand what you say, it IS in crafting station already ? it si more about logic : 1 tab to "crush" one tab to mix.

lili36 commented 2025年05月12日 19:44:55 +02:00

@TPH wrote in #1206 (comment):

I disagree since the overall crafting is small and I don't think we should pollute crafting stations with what I believe are unnecessary... Uhh I forget their names again, crafting sections?

Sure they look similar but I disagree that they should be separated. There was that idea of yours a while back to add inventory images for them IIRC and that would be preferable

I think you misunderstood me, on exile-meals, other floor are already in crushing tab, so... all flour together, only all-flour is not here... .

Also, you can check my v4 branch https://codeberg.org/lili36/Exile-Lili/src/branch/very_messy_log
and the matching https://codeberg.org/lili36/exile_meals/src/branch/very_messy_log

(messy logs but working) to see my work, replacement, etc... and tell me what you think.
Since you have not IRC bouncer anymore, I wrote on discord too.

In this branch, flour is moved and you will see what I mean !

Testing more, I think tartar also should be moved to mixed food... so many food lol... many should be moved to other tool, but for now... I was focused on something else...

I touched your branch because changing replacement system on v4 needed to update exile-meals (and I changed replacement system to deduplicate your recipes.

Only the damo one look bad in tooltip (need weight for damo seeds, notion of weight/quantityt could be better, and/or display "some damo seedling")

@TPH wrote in https://codeberg.org/Mantar/Exile/pulls/1206#issuecomment-4429784: > I disagree since the overall crafting is small and I don't think we should pollute crafting stations with what I believe are unnecessary... Uhh I forget their names again, crafting sections? > > Sure they look similar but I disagree that they should be separated. There was that idea of yours a while back to add inventory images for them IIRC and that would be preferable I think you misunderstood me, on exile-meals, other floor are already in crushing tab, so... all flour together, only all-flour is not here... . Also, you can check my v4 branch https://codeberg.org/lili36/Exile-Lili/src/branch/very_messy_log and the matching https://codeberg.org/lili36/exile_meals/src/branch/very_messy_log (messy logs but working) to see my work, replacement, etc... and tell me what you think. Since you have not IRC bouncer anymore, I wrote on discord too. In this branch, flour is moved and you will see what I mean ! Testing more, I think tartar also should be moved to mixed food... so many food lol... many should be moved to other tool, but for now... I was focused on something else... I touched your branch because changing replacement system on v4 needed to update exile-meals (and I changed replacement system to deduplicate your recipes. Only the damo one look bad in tooltip (need weight for damo seeds, notion of weight/quantityt could be better, and/or display "some damo seedling")

TPH commented 2025年05月13日 02:14:05 +02:00

Oh you moved flour to the mortar and pestle crafting?

Oh you moved flour to the mortar and pestle crafting?

lili36 commented 2025年05月13日 14:28:46 +02:00

yes, and I think it could be rename to "crush" and have a different image, because it is werid to have same image for station and tab... maybe a draxing of a pestle crushing things ? that tab seems to match "crush things" like spices, oil, flours... also other flours were already in it... while tartare could go in mixing tab...
for the recipes in main crafting part, I made a food tab.
and I think I moved the tang maybe ? not sure, you can check my branch with messy log to see all changes together (new station display, replacement system to deduplicate your recipes, etc)

yes, and I think it could be rename to "crush" and have a different image, because it is werid to have same image for station and tab... maybe a draxing of a pestle crushing things ? that tab seems to match "crush things" like spices, oil, flours... also other flours were already in it... while tartare could go in mixing tab... for the recipes in main crafting part, I made a food tab. and I think I moved the tang maybe ? not sure, you can check my branch with messy log to see all changes together (new station display, replacement system to deduplicate your recipes, etc)

lili36 commented 2025年05月16日 17:25:22 +02:00

@TPH wrote in #1206 (comment):

Oh you moved flour to the mortar and pestle crafting?

if you agree, I will remove the "to discuss" thing because my huge PR contain that commit... I kept it apart to remove it if not validated, passing it would avoid me a rebase :D

@TPH wrote in https://codeberg.org/Mantar/Exile/pulls/1206#issuecomment-4450148: > Oh you moved flour to the mortar and pestle crafting? if you agree, I will remove the "to discuss" thing because my huge PR contain that commit... I kept it apart to remove it if not validated, passing it would avoid me a rebase :D

TPH commented 2025年05月19日 13:23:40 +02:00

Doesn't make sense to have a "crush" type different from the mortar and pestle - since crushing is exactly what a mortar and pestle does! >;p

I'm still iffy on the idea of moving flours to the mortar and pestle but if Mantar has no issue with it...

Doesn't make sense to have a "crush" type different from the mortar and pestle - since crushing is exactly what a mortar and pestle does! >;p I'm still iffy on the idea of moving flours to the mortar and pestle but if Mantar has no issue with it...

lili36 commented 2025年05月19日 15:12:00 +02:00

@TPH wrote in #1206 (comment):

Doesn't make sense to have a "crush" type different from the mortar and pestle - since crushing is exactly what a mortar and pestle does! >;p

I'm still iffy on the idea of moving flours to the mortar and pestle but if Mantar has no issue with it...

other flours are already here, it was weird to have all of them here except one.
also, you crush the flour ? but the reste of your organisation in your mode is more logicial than tool... and you have too many things in main mortar...

@TPH wrote in https://codeberg.org/Mantar/Exile/pulls/1206#issuecomment-4641362: > Doesn't make sense to have a "crush" type different from the mortar and pestle - since crushing is exactly what a mortar and pestle does! >;p > > I'm still iffy on the idea of moving flours to the mortar and pestle but if Mantar has no issue with it... other flours are already here, it was weird to have all of them here except one. also, you crush the flour ? but the reste of your organisation in your mode is more logicial than tool... and you have too many things in main mortar...

TPH commented 2025年05月19日 20:35:17 +02:00

other flours are already here, it was weird to have all of them here except one. also, you crush the flour ? but the reste of your organisation in your mode is more logicial than tool... and you have too many things in main mortar...

Huh I'm confused. You crush the ingredients for flour to make them into flour - unless you're talking about all-purpose flour..?

It's only a slight scrollbar for the main mortar and pestle - ignoring mixing_foods

> other flours are already here, it was weird to have all of them here except one. also, you crush the flour ? but the reste of your organisation in your mode is more logicial than tool... and you have too many things in main mortar... Huh I'm confused. You crush the ingredients for flour to make them into flour - unless you're talking about all-purpose flour..? It's only a slight scrollbar for the main mortar and pestle - ignoring `mixing_foods`

lili36 commented 2025年05月20日 14:22:57 +02:00

@TPH wrote in #1206 (comment):

other flours are already here, it was weird to have all of them here except one. also, you crush the flour ? but the reste of your organisation in your mode is more logicial than tool... and you have too many things in main mortar...

Huh I'm confused. You crush the ingredients for flour to make them into flour - unless you're talking about all-purpose flour..?

It's only a slight scrollbar for the main mortar and pestle - ignoring mixing_foods

yes, all purpose is the only one in bread making, I understand with your comment why: it is already crushed, I see !
but then, in exile-meals, other things are by thematic (sugar is crushed, cake are mixed, etc), so we could also put all flours in bread making... but it was confusing for me as player to have half half.

Also, too many things in maine tab, which is even called "crushing" and I think Mantar wanted to separate the food too ? hum.... check the dedupe version, then we see more clear in it

@TPH wrote in https://codeberg.org/Mantar/Exile/pulls/1206#issuecomment-4643568: > > other flours are already here, it was weird to have all of them here except one. also, you crush the flour ? but the reste of your organisation in your mode is more logicial than tool... and you have too many things in main mortar... > > Huh I'm confused. You crush the ingredients for flour to make them into flour - unless you're talking about all-purpose flour..? > > It's only a slight scrollbar for the main mortar and pestle - ignoring `mixing_foods` yes, all purpose is the only one in bread making, I understand with your comment why: it is already crushed, I see ! but then, in exile-meals, other things are by thematic (sugar is crushed, cake are mixed, etc), so we could also put all flours in bread making... but it was confusing for me as player to have half half. Also, too many things in maine tab, which is even called "crushing" and I think Mantar wanted to separate the food too ? hum.... check the dedupe version, then we see more clear in it

Mantar commented 2026年07月04日 07:41:44 +02:00

Yeah, it's weird that maraka flour and barshocha flour are in the mortar, but all-purpose flour is in breadmaking.

If anything, maraka cakes should move into breadmaking.

Yeah, it's weird that maraka flour and barshocha flour are in the mortar, but all-purpose flour is in breadmaking. If anything, maraka cakes should move into breadmaking.