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Created on 2020年04月14日 15:32 by pitrou, last changed 2022年04月11日 14:59 by admin. This issue is now closed.
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| PR 19539 | merged | pitrou, 2020年04月15日 08:24 | |
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| msg366392 - (view) | Author: Antoine Pitrou (pitrou) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 15:32 | |
When creating variable-sized random binary strings with random.getrandbits(), you currently have to special case when the number of bytes is 0, because otherwise getrandbits() raises: ValueError: number of bits must be greater than zero It seems like it wouldn't hurt to simply return 0 in that case. The actual snippet looks something like: random.getrandombits(nbytes * 8).to_bytes(nbytes, 'little') |
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| msg366393 - (view) | Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 15:33 | |
How random would be the 0 returned by getrandbits(0)? :-) |
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| msg366394 - (view) | Author: Antoine Pitrou (pitrou) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 15:37 | |
I think you know the answer to your question ;-) |
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| msg366429 - (view) | Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 18:43 | |
Seconded. And I wish to add the getrandbytes() method. |
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| msg366430 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 18:52 | |
This was discussed previously in #37000. I agree that `getrandbits(0)` should succeed. |
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| msg366440 - (view) | Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 20:03 | |
+0 for having getrandbits(0) return 0. Conceptually, it is reasonable. Practically, it is a bit inconvenient because the ValueError may have to be moved upstream to the _randbelow() methods. -1 for getrandbytes(). That is feature creep and no user has requested it. Also, the name leads to a confusing API with getrandbits() returning arbitrary sized python ints and getrandbytes() returning bytes. Lastly, it mostly duplicates functionality already supplied by secrets.token_bytes(). If you really want this, open another tracker issue and don't derail the issue at hand. |
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| msg366443 - (view) | Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 20:50 | |
I do not want to open an issue if I know that the idea will be rejected. |
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| msg366444 - (view) | Author: Antoine Pitrou (pitrou) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 20:51 | |
About a hypothetical getrandbytes(), probably 90% of my uses of getrandbits() have been to generate random bytestrings. |
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| msg366445 - (view) | Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 21:01 | |
Why not use secrets.token_bytes() or randrange(2**b).to_bytes()? Do you really need an API extension? |
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| msg366446 - (view) | Author: Antoine Pitrou (pitrou) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 21:04 | |
I agree I don't *need* it per se. However, I suspect that for non-exports it would be easier than `getrandbits(nbytes * 8).to_bytes(nbytes, 'endian')`. As for `secrets.token_bytes()`, it's not really adequate for regular pseudo-random data generation when you want to use a fixed seed. And I'm not sure what its performance characteristics are when you pass a large size. |
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| msg366452 - (view) | Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 21:46 | |
> That is feature creep and no user has requested it. Python already provides such function in the secrets module, so I'm not sure if what you mean that "no users has requested it". secrets.token_bytes() exists because there is a need for such function. secrets.token_bytes() is more designed for security, but random.Random() is more designed for simulations. And such users also exists, that's why numpy provides numpy.random.bytes(length) function: https://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy-1.15.0/reference/generated/numpy.random.bytes.html To be honest, I never understood where there is such "hole" in the random module API. Especially for SystemRandom since its source os.urandom() generates bytes. A concrete use case is to generate manually a UUID4 from 16 random bytes. For testing, you may want to get "deterministic random" UUID4. Using getrandbits() for thta sounds unnatural to me. Another use case is to create a secret token: well, that's basically that secrets.token_bytes() does. That's used in multiprocessing but also in urllib (AbstractDigestAuthHandler.get_cnonce()). So yeah, it sounds perfectly reasonable to add such simple function. I don't see how add such obvious function would be a "feature creep". |
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| msg366455 - (view) | Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月14日 22:41 | |
I created bpo-40286: Add getrandbytes() method to random.Random. |
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| msg366670 - (view) | Author: Antoine Pitrou (pitrou) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年04月17日 17:32 | |
New changeset 75a3378810bab03949ad9f653f78d933bdf3879c by Antoine Pitrou in branch 'master': bpo-40282: Allow random.getrandbits(0) (GH-19539) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/75a3378810bab03949ad9f653f78d933bdf3879c |
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| Date | User | Action | Args |
| 2022年04月11日 14:59:29 | admin | set | github: 84463 |
| 2020年04月17日 17:32:30 | pitrou | set | status: open -> closed resolution: fixed stage: patch review -> resolved |
| 2020年04月17日 17:32:20 | pitrou | set | messages: + msg366670 |
| 2020年04月15日 08:24:37 | pitrou | set | keywords:
+ patch stage: needs patch -> patch review pull_requests: + pull_request18887 |
| 2020年04月14日 22:41:39 | vstinner | set | messages: + msg366455 |
| 2020年04月14日 21:46:08 | vstinner | set | messages: + msg366452 |
| 2020年04月14日 21:04:50 | pitrou | set | messages: + msg366446 |
| 2020年04月14日 21:01:50 | rhettinger | set | nosy:
+ tim.peters messages: + msg366445 |
| 2020年04月14日 20:52:22 | pitrou | set | components: + Library (Lib) |
| 2020年04月14日 20:52:16 | pitrou | set | stage: needs patch |
| 2020年04月14日 20:51:04 | pitrou | set | messages: + msg366444 |
| 2020年04月14日 20:50:03 | serhiy.storchaka | set | messages: + msg366443 |
| 2020年04月14日 20:03:51 | rhettinger | set | messages: + msg366440 |
| 2020年04月14日 18:52:43 | mark.dickinson | set | messages: + msg366430 |
| 2020年04月14日 18:43:49 | serhiy.storchaka | set | nosy:
+ serhiy.storchaka messages: + msg366429 |
| 2020年04月14日 15:37:45 | pitrou | set | messages: + msg366394 |
| 2020年04月14日 15:33:46 | vstinner | set | nosy:
+ vstinner messages: + msg366393 |
| 2020年04月14日 15:32:35 | pitrou | create | |