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Title: Show the address in the repr for class objects
Type: enhancement Stage: resolved
Components: Versions: Python 3.6
process
Status: closed Resolution: fixed
Dependencies: Superseder:
Assigned To: kushal.das Nosy List: Nofar Schnider, Tim.Graham, Winterflower, abarry, brett.cannon, gvanrossum, kushal.das, martin.panter, matrixise, mbussonn, ned.deily, petere, ppperry, python-dev, rhettinger, terry.reedy
Priority: release blocker Keywords: patch

Created on 2015年11月03日 18:40 by rhettinger, last changed 2022年04月11日 14:58 by admin. This issue is now closed.

Files
File name Uploaded Description Edit
issue25548.patch kushal.das, 2016年06月02日 21:44 Code and test updates for the same review
issue25548v2.patch kushal.das, 2016年06月03日 16:40 Second version of the patch review
issue25548v4.patch kushal.das, 2016年06月03日 18:01 with news update review
Messages (27)
msg254012 - (view) Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) Date: 2015年11月03日 18:40
In old-style classes, the memory address of the class object is shown for both the class and for the instance. In new-style classes, only the instance shows the address. I and other Python instructors have found the memory address display to be useful and I think it should be added back:
Old-style
=========
 
 >>> class A:
 	pass
 >>> a = A()
 >>> A
 <class __main__.A at 0x10061e328>
 >>> a
 <__main__.A instance at 0x105292cb0> 
New-style
=========
 >>> class A(object):
 	pass
 >>> a = A()
 >>> A
 <class '__main__.A'>
 >>> a
 <__main__.A object at 0x105332cd0>
msg254017 - (view) Author: Stéphane Wirtel (matrixise) * (Python committer) Date: 2015年11月03日 21:06
Hi Raymond,
I just executed the code with python 3.5 and I don't have this result:
Python 3.5.0 (default, Sep 23 2015, 04:41:38)
[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.72)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> class A: pass
...
>>> A
<class '__main__.A'>
>>> class A(object): pass
...
>>> A
<class '__main__.A'>
>>>
msg254232 - (view) Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) * (Python committer) Date: 2015年11月06日 21:56
In 3.x, old style classes are gone, so you get a new style class with or without '(object)'.
msg265883 - (view) Author: (ppperry) Date: 2016年05月19日 19:09
I don't quite get why the memory address is helpful, but you could work around this using a custom metaclass:
 class IdMeta(type):
 def __repr__(cls):
 return super().__repr__()[:-1] + " at 0x%x>"%id(cls)
 class IdInRepr(metaclass=IdMeta):pass
`IdInRepr` and all its subclasses will then have the memory address in their representation:
 <class 'module.name' at address>
msg266038 - (view) Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年05月22日 01:27
> I don't quite get why the memory address is helpful
For the same reason that we've found the address to helpful in other reprs, it helps people understand that classes are objects just like anything else and to know which objects are distinct.
My instructors have found that this matters when teaching Python and more than one of them immediately noticed the loss of information when switching from teaching Python 2 to Python 3.
msg266963 - (view) Author: Kushal Das (kushal.das) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年06月02日 21:44
Attaching the patch for the same. Had to update the test cases for the following tests to have this behavior as expected.
test_functools 
test_cmd_line_script 
test_ctypes 
test_defaultdict 
test_descr
test_descrtut 
test_doctest 
test_generators
test_genexps 
test_metaclass 
test_pprint 
test_reprlib
test_statistics 
test_trace 
test_wsgiref
msg267110 - (view) Author: Kushal Das (kushal.das) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年06月03日 16:40
Uploading the new patch with a new test case for the same.
msg267112 - (view) Author: Anilyka Barry (abarry) * (Python triager) Date: 2016年06月03日 17:13
I'd probably change all instances of ".*" in the regex matches to be "0x.+" instead. For the docstrings that have "..." in them, I would probably make those " at ..." as well (although you get decide if it hinders readability too much).
Other than that patch LGTM.
msg267113 - (view) Author: Brett Cannon (brett.cannon) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年06月03日 17:18
Patch LGTM. Just needs doc and What's New updates.
msg267119 - (view) Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年06月03日 17:47
Kushal. If you don't mind, I would like Nofar to be able to do this patch. She's been working on it since before the sprints and was slowed down by a schoolwork crunch.
msg267121 - (view) Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年06月03日 17:56
Nofar is about to upload her patch as well (she's been working on this for a while). Perhaps the two can be compared and reconciled so that both can be credited on the commit.
msg267122 - (view) Author: Kushal Das (kushal.das) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年06月03日 18:01
Hey Raymond, I am uploading the patch which I almost committed along with whats new update :)
I am also reassigning the ticket to you so that you can decide the next steps.
msg267225 - (view) Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年06月04日 03:14
Thanks Kushal. It looks like we had a race condition ;-) I'll assign it back after Nofar's work is in and reconciled.
msg267286 - (view) Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年06月04日 17:34
Nofar said not to wait for her on this one.
msg267344 - (view) Author: Roundup Robot (python-dev) (Python triager) Date: 2016年06月04日 23:24
New changeset af29d89083b3 by Kushal Das in branch 'default':
Issue #25548: Showing memory address of class objects in repl
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/af29d89083b3 
msg267403 - (view) Author: Nofar Schnider (Nofar Schnider) * (Python triager) Date: 2016年06月05日 08:57
Kushal, you've beat me to it. Great work!
msg267704 - (view) Author: Matthias Bussonnier (mbussonn) * Date: 2016年06月07日 16:56
Hi guys, the title of the issues is "show address in the **repR**", but the NEWS file says[1] in the **repL*, which are 2 different things ! :-)
And this patch change the repR so it also affect scripts and unittests. 
[1] since https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/af29d89083b3 
msg268760 - (view) Author: Peter Eisentraut (petere) * Date: 2016年06月18日 04:30
I understand the reasoning here, but I want to say booh to this change in 3.6.0a2 because it breaks my tests. It used to be that type(x) returned a predictable string, and that was an easy way to verify the result types of things.
Perhaps a __str__ implementation could be added that avoids the memory address?
msg268763 - (view) Author: Martin Panter (martin.panter) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年06月18日 04:51
There is also Issue 13224 proposing to change __str__() to just return the __name__ or __qualname__ if I remember correctly.
msg269075 - (view) Author: Tim Graham (Tim.Graham) * Date: 2016年06月22日 14:38
I'll echo what Peter said and say that this breaks 5 tests in Django's test suite which are checking error messages. If it stays, perhaps it could be added to the release notes instead of just NEWS.
msg270262 - (view) Author: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年07月12日 18:45
I'm also echoing this... It breaks too many tests. I filed issue27498.
msg270296 - (view) Author: Kushal Das (kushal.das) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年07月13日 04:14
The NEWS file got a typo. Thanks for noticing that.
This change did require a lot of updates to the tests.
If rest of the people agrees to revert this change, then we should go ahead and do it. Just wondering if Raymond has anything to add.
msg270313 - (view) Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年07月13日 14:59
Would there be a way to confine this to just heap types? The user defined classes are where there is the most benefit. For the built-in types, it just seems to add noise.
msg270314 - (view) Author: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年07月13日 15:07
Doing it only for user-defined types would still break my tests.
msg270342 - (view) Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年07月13日 20:24
+1 on rolling this back. It sounds like it hurt more than it would have helped.
To satisfy my curiosity, can you post one of the tests that broke. It would be nice to see what kind of tests are depend the repr of the class. AFAICT, there was never an issue with this for old-style classes in Python2.7, so something new must be occurring in the wild.
msg270345 - (view) Author: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum) * (Python committer) Date: 2016年07月13日 20:47
Thanks, let's roll it back.
The reason it never was an issue for old-style classes is that they
behaved like this from the start, so nobody wrote tests that depended
on the predictability of repr(). But new-style classes have had this
nice clean repr() since they were introduced (in 2.3?) so it's
unsurprising that this is now depended upon.
Here's a link to some test code for mypy that broke:
https://github.com/python/mypy/blob/master/mypy/util.py#L22-L23
It may be irreprehensible code but it works for Python 3.2-3.5 (and
for new-style classes in Python 2, except mypy requires Python 3), and
broke in 3.6.
msg270360 - (view) Author: Roundup Robot (python-dev) (Python triager) Date: 2016年07月14日 04:13
New changeset 4f11e6b72e8f by Benjamin Peterson in branch 'default':
Backed out changeset af29d89083b3 (closes #25548) (closes #27498)
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4f11e6b72e8f 
History
Date User Action Args
2022年04月11日 14:58:23adminsetgithub: 69734
2016年10月06日 11:09:54berker.peksagunlinkissue27232 superseder
2016年07月14日 04:13:42python-devsetstatus: open -> closed

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resolution: fixed
stage: commit review -> resolved
2016年07月13日 22:30:47ned.deilysetpriority: normal -> release blocker
2016年07月13日 20:47:36gvanrossumsetmessages: + msg270345
2016年07月13日 20:24:10rhettingersetmessages: + msg270342
2016年07月13日 15:07:52gvanrossumsetmessages: + msg270314
2016年07月13日 14:59:40rhettingersetmessages: + msg270313
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