[Dx-qsl] Peter One

Thu Jun 1 13:50:07 EDT 2006

Danny Douglas (who doesn't seem to have a callsign... at least I never see 
it) wrote: "I disagree with ... going thru incoming envelopes...and stacking 
[them] according to how much was in the envelope..... To me that smacks of 
buying a card.... I believe in the idea of "first in- first out"..... I 
just dont feel that my.... financial status or
contribution should figure in...."
Why not? Your "financial status or contribution" figures in to everything 
else in your life, as it does with all of us.
Some of us are better off financially than others... fact of life. Some 
guys out there drive a Lexus, push their signals out from ICOM 7800's into 
stacked beams on 120-foot towers, and support DXpeditions with 500ドル and 
higher contributions. I drive a Toyota, am thrilled with a 3L at 50 feet at 
the end of the coax, and sent 20ドル. Why shouldn't the guy that sends more 
get a nicer card, or get it sooner, than I do? He earned it, same as he 
earned his other nice stuff. Otherwise, how could DXpeditions ever motivate 
the kind of major fundraising it takes these days to do something like Peter 
One?
If you HAD to contribute money to get a card at all, I'd agree with you 
Danny, it would be like "buying" a card... and we all know of a few ops in 
that business, eh? But I think it's a great idea that the more you 
contribute, the sooner you get your card, and maybe even a nicer card to 
boot.
73, Jerry K3BZ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Danny Douglas" <n7dc at vabb.com>
To: <DX-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Peter One
>I have heard enough. First of all, the expediton got out a lot of cards as
> faster or faster than any other dxpediton I remember. Usually we wait 
> while
> the organizers seem to juggle around to get a design, for weeks. Then 
> they
> wait until they know how many incoming envelopes they receive, in order to
> not over-order cards. Then and only then they get around to starting to
> fill out responses. This group got that done in a quick hurry.
>> Now - I disagree with the methodology of going thru incoming envelopes, 
> and
> taking "contributions" out and stacking the envelopes according to how 
> much
> was in the envelope. To me that smacks of buying a card. I believe in 
> the
> idea of "first in- first out". Its great that people want to help 
> balance
> the finances of such an expedition, and I guess that this is all figured 
> in
> when the budget is decided before the trip is completely planned and
> underway. I just dont feel that my, or anyone elses, financial status or
> contribution should figure in with the rate of card returns. I suspect 
> in
> this case that the incoming envelopes were opened and some arbitrary
> stacking system was used, after the contributions were removed. Probably
> stacks of 100ドル or over, 75 or over, 50 or over, etc. down to those who
> simply put in a SASE (which I would almost bet is the majority).
>> Now, that many have blown off steam, its time to stop and just wait for 
> your
> card. The group has no idea if your health is poor, if you are going to
> move next week, or its your last ever needed card - nor frankly, should 
> any
> of those reasons make any difference to how quickly you get your card.
> Lets wait until they tell us all the cards have been responded to. Then,
> and only then should we send an email and ask. Your emails are slowing
> things down now, and causing the rest of us to wait longer - with you. 
> When
> the card comes - I will have it. If I die first, it want make a tinkers
> dam when or if it comes.
> \
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack - K4WSB" <K4WSB at arrl.net>
> To: "HK3CW" <cwdude at gmail.com>; <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Peter One
>>>> Amen,
>>>> All you complainers and conspiracy believers should try and be a QSL
>> manager sometime... especially for a station putting several hundred
>> (thousand) QSO's daily into the log. How long do you think it takes to
>> sort the mail, open the envelope, check the log, print a QSL, stuff and
>> lick the envelope and get it to the mailbox?
>>>> I caught the tail end of a discussion at the ICOM booth during the Dayton
>> hamfest. They had just finished several thousand(S) and got them in the
>> mail just before leaving for Dayton.
>>>> For those that belive BIG BUCKS get served first: if it was me those
> cards
>> would be mailed out as soon as the expedition was over, otherwise how 
>> long
>> would it take to sort through the sacks to find the envelopes from those
>> stations.
>>>>>> At 07:47 AM 6/1/2006 -0500, HK3CW wrote:
>> >Crap...the speed that you receive your QSL is directly proportional to
>> >your patience. Why the big fuzz about it? Can't you wait, do you think
> the
>> >ops or are going to steal your freakin 2 dollars? or 10 or 15 ...
>> >Get a life people!
>> >
>> >73 de HK3CW so..I have not rcvd my qsl either...so what??
>> >
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" <n4nw at n4nw.org>
>> >To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>> >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:55 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Peter One
>> >
>> >>The speed in which you will receive your QSL is directly proportional 
>> >>to
>> >>the amount of money you sent to support the operation!
>> >>
>> >>At 10:26 PM 05/31/2006, you wrote:
>> >>>Is there anyone on the list who sent their card around 27 Feb and
>> >>>contributed what they could and how they could who does not have a 
>> >>>card
> yet ?
>> >>>
>> >>>Just wondering.
>> >>>
>> >>>And getting suspicious; I'd like to make a comment but won't.
>> >>>
>> >>>Thank you
>> >>>Matt WV1K
>> >>
>> >>Jack Hartley
>> >>K4WSB
>> >>ARRL - QCWA - OOTC
>> >>DXCC Honor Roll
>>>>>> &quot;Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
> got...till it's gone.&quot; from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but also
> true about QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help
> financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
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>>>>>>> &quot;Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've 
> got...till it's gone.&quot; from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but also 
> true about QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help 
> financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
>