Showing posts with label STAE128. Show all posts
Showing posts with label STAE128. Show all posts

Friday, November 15, 2013

Cheap Thunderbolt eSATA solution





You can go out and spend 179ドル on a LaCie eSATA Thunderbolt hub or make your own with various parts for under 55ドル-100ドル. I was able to jury-rig a 3ドル.50 micro male SATA to eSATA cable with the Seagate Thunderbolt docks to make a working Thunderbolt - eSATA solution.

I used both the STAE129 Desktop Adapter (reviewed here on this blog) and the portable STAE121 Go-Flex adapter (also reviewed here on this blog). Both can be bought, heavily discounted at the Direct Seagate Store. They often go on sale for 50ドル and 100ドル.





All I needed was a special cable that is 3ドル.50 on Amazon. It is basically a male micro SATA to eSATA cable. In short, a portable set-up can cost as low as 60ドル.



In order to use this, you will need to break the two retaining clips on both sides. It goes in one way since it is a L-shape connector. Since you are using eSATA, you won't need the power from the SATA connector.




Voila. Thats it!

And guess what, OS X reports it as a port multiplier. I don't know if that is true or not but that is what is reported. This means you can hook this up to those cheap 80ドル 4 bay JBOD RAID enclosures.



I connected to both the portable and desktop Seagate Thunderbolt adapters.
Performance wise, you will hit 3 Gbps SATA.

I connected them twice to the SansDigital TOWERRAID TR4UTBPN 4 bay RAID enclosure.

For a 9TB spinning RAID 5, this is not bad. See the benchmark below.


So there you have it. A cheap make-shift solution. I make no guarantees. You can fry something up. If you don't feel safe with this, you can always go and buy the La Cie for 179ドル-199.


Link:
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-SATA-Cables-eSATA-Inches/dp/B002P6W8E8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384560580

Monday, February 25, 2013

STAE129 Seagate Thunderbolt Desktop Adapter Review

A few months ago, I reviewed the portable Seagate Go-Flex Thunderbolt adaper, the STAE121. Today, I am going to give a short review of the desktop version designed for the Backup Plus Desktop external drives from Seagate. The model is STAE129.



This dock/adapter is designed specifically for the Seagate external Backup Plus drives. I have about a dozen or so of these USB2/USB 3.0 drives in 3TB and 4TB configurations. They contained 7200 rpm Barracuda XT drives that are often way cheaper than buying internal versions. If you shop carefully, 3TB can be had for 100ドル-120 whereas the 4TB can go for 150ドル-180. I pretty much stock up when they go on sale.

The STAE129 is a pricey affair at 150ドル without thunderbolt cables (you can get cheap ones here). Since I had a shelf full of these external Seagate drives, I figure, why not. I'll give this a spin. More importantly, my 2012 27" iMac does not have USB 3.0. So this review will be based off a 27" Thunderbolt model iMac along with a brand new freshly HFS+ formatted 4TB Seagate drive. I will also compare USB 3.0 from my Macbook.

So here, I have a 4TB drive, STAE129 Thunderbolt adapter, The USB 3.0 base that comes with the 4TB Seagate Backup plus, and the STAE121 2.5 portable Thunderbolt adapter for comparison.





You can use the dock with 3.5" bare drives if you are creative. However, I wouldn't recommend it.



Someone should make a 3.5" sliding cradle so you can use standard drives. 2.5" SSDs work fine (as I will show later). The power supply interchanges with the USB 3.0 base.

The main issue I have with the dock is the flimsy plastic pins that connect to the Backup Plus enclosures. They make a worrisome snapping sound when you dislodge the enclosures.
I was hoping to freely move my enclosures from USB 3 to Thunderbolt but I have to be extremely careful removing enclosures. There is a great likelihood you can easily snap them off.




After a few tries, it was best to gently dislodge from the front first.




Unlike the STAE121/128, the Desktop Thunderbolt adapter comes with two Thunderbolt ports for daisy chaining. Here I have 3 Thunderbolt daisy chained: Drobo 5D, STAE129, and the portable STAE121 at the end.




Installation:
In order to use this drive, you need to install some drivers for both Mac and Windows. There is a USB stick supplied in the packaging. I opted to download the latest ones from Seagate's website.

The driver is only needed on the Mac if you wish to use 2TB with Thunderbolt which was the case with me. If you have data on an existing drive, I suggest you back it up. The Thunderbolt enclosure prompted me to re-format the drive before using.


Performance:

So how does it perform? Well that depends on what you are using it with. If you are planning to use 2.5" SSDs, you are simply better off using the portable 2.5" Adapter. I tried a Samsung 830 SSD on both and the speeds were comparable.



Using Black Magic speed test, here is what I got with the Samsung 830 SSD.
307 MB/sec Write, 360MB/sec Read on both the Desktop STAE129 and portable 2.5 STAE121.






So for SSDs, just save your save the cash and buy the STAE121/128 portable Thunderbolt Adapters.

Now, if you are like me and have a bunch of external Backup Plus drives, this is the adapter to get. And the point of this review is to see how it would perform in the most typical scenario - using the 7200 rpm HDD external enclosures.


With the 4TB Desktop enclosure, I was getting 177/176 MB/sec Write and Reads as shown below.


I would say this is pretty good. In fact, it performs better than the internal 7200 rpm 1TB internal drive, ST31000528AS, that came with my 27" iMac. The internal drive benches at 108/57 MB/sec Write and Read.

The internal drive is running at SATA II/3 Gb/s instead of SATA III / 6 Gb/s

I thought the benchmarking off the boot drive with a full OS may have caused some slowdowns. But that is not really the case as I cloned the internal drive onto the Thunderbolt drive and booted off the external Thunderbolt.


As you can see below, a full Mountain Lion clone install and boot did little to impact the performance of the 4TB Thunderbolt drive.In fact, booting and running off the drive via Thunderbolt was a pleasure. I clocked the boot time from fresh power to login screen at 29 seconds. That is not bad for a 7200 rpm HDD drive.





As you can see from the screenshots below, the first one shows the internal drive running at 3 Gigabit versus the Thunderbolt running at a full SATA III 6 Gigabit.





So it seems the Thunderbolt controller is running at full optimal speed. I was worried it might be a handicap device running at SATA I or II. This isn't the case with Seagate.

So how does it compare to USB 3.0? As I mentioned earlier, one of the incentive for me to get this was the fact my 27" iMac does not have USB 3.0. However, my newer Macbook does have USB 3.0.




Running Blackmagic off my Macbook, the USB 3.0 posts some good numbers. It is slightly slower than the Thunderbolt adapter. However, I probably attribute it to a slower USB 3.0 controller chipset.



Hence, here lies the dilemma. Thunderbolt with standard platter hard drives are not a compelling sell over standard USB 3.0. The USB 3.0 connector comes free with practically every Backup Plus enclosures.There are advantages to Thunderbolt over USB 3.0. Most notably in smaller I/O operations. Booting off Thunderbolt and copying random files will be faster. In the case of boot time, it was 3X faster at 31 seconds versus 1 minute and 45 seconds for USB 3.0. Small I/O, random 4K seeks will suffer under USB 3.0. But for copying large files, E.G. movie rips and gigabyte files, it is a draw.


Now, if your computer doesn't have USB 3.0 as in the case of my 2012 27" iMac, it may be worthwhile to get this adapter. If you need proof, here is the exact same 4TB Backup Plus drive connected to the USB 2.0 ports of my iMac. 29 MB/sec Writes and 38 MB/sec Reads.

I think this last picture pretty much the reason for any pre-USB 3.0/Ivy Bridge Mac user who has Thunderbolt.














Thursday, February 7, 2013

Finding the perfect SSD thunderbolt set-up? 2.5" Thunderbolt enclosure

Right now, you can't really buy a Thunderbolt enclosure for SSDs. I've seen people buy the Buffalo MiniStation and replace the drives. The most popular option is to use the Seagate STAE121/STAE128 Thunderbolt adapters.

Unfortunately, it is not very attractive with bare drives. I've seen reviewers use duck tape and it still looks ghastly. So, most people just run it bare as pictured below.



Well, there are a few USM enclosures now hitting the market. With USM, you can use the STAE128/STAE121 Thunderbolt adapter and interchange with SATA/Firewire/USB 3.0.
This may be the ideal solution for the lack of Thunderbolt enclosures on the market.

This one from Calvary is a USB 3.0 enclosure (along with cable) and it cost around 20ドル. At 20,ドル I figure I give it a try and report back.








Cheap is the word I would summarize this product. It doesn't even have an installation manual or instructions. Rather, everything is printed on the box. I made the mistake of pulling the pieces apart; breaking some of the internal clips.



Installation is a straightforward affair.



Voila. A case to go along with the Seagate Thunderbolt Adapter. As you can see, it is a much cleaner set-up. There you go a 2.5" Thunderbolt enclosure that is removable.





Conclusion:

Well, this case works better with the newer STAE128 adapter instead of the STAE121. USM is much thinner than Go-Flex so you will still have some gaps if you are using the older STAE121 Thunderbolt adapter.

I'm not particularly impressed this specific enclosure. There is nothing to hold the drives tightly in place. If you have a thinner 7mm SSD drive, it will be loose. You will probably still need to tape it down in place. I would not recommend this enclosure with a platter spinning 2.5 drive. SSDs have no moving parts so I can be a little more forgiving.

The best bet is to look for a different brand of USM enclosure. I'll report back when I find another USM enclosure.






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