I've been grumbling about this for a while, so I've decided to try and post something constructive about this post and ask for clarifications that are not in the post or linked blog. You might argue that this isn't really an answer, but the post isn't really a question. I couldn't fit all this into a comment anyway!
Great subjective questions...
This list defines great subjective questions.
What should we do about questions that are not "great"?
I think it's fair to say that if a question met 2 or 3 of these criteria, it could still be good. I believe that being good should be enough to keep a question open. Being great should get it upvotes, unless it is now SE policy to only allow great questions. There should be a middle ground for a subjective question that merely gets it downvotes instead of close votes.
You mention that if a question meets four of the guidelines it's enough to keep a question open, but the criteria are flawed as four of the six guidelines them refer to the qualities of the answers, rather than the question and two of them have co-dependencies, so can't really be counted separately. Let me go through the criteria:
inspire answers that explain "why" and "how".
tend to have long, not short, answers.
Given that we do not yet know what the as-yet unposted answers are going to be like, shouldn't we give each and every question a fair kick of the can to actually see some of the answers before we close it? How long should that be?
have a constructive, fair, and impartial tone.
Agreed. But isn't this expected as a given for any SE question or answer, not just subjective ones?
invite sharing experiences over opinions.
insist that opinion be backed up with facts and references.
These two points really need to be combined as one, particularly if people are using a count of these guidelines as a reason for closing or downvoting a question. If you word a question to strictly follow the "experience" guideline, by definition you should not even need the "opinion" guideline, so it is impossible currently for a question to meet all six guidelines.
It should read
invite sharing experience over opinions; if opinions are shared without experience, insist they are backed up with facts and references.
Finally, we come to:
are more than just mindless social fun.
Once the few joke and quote questions are gotten out of the way (and I think they have already), I'm not sure if there are many new questions that would really fall foul of this that wouldn't just be closed as off-topic, but I certainly could be wrong about that.
I've been grumbling about this for a while, so I've decided to try and post something constructive about this post and ask for clarifications that are not in the post or linked blog. You might argue that this isn't really an answer, but the post isn't really a question. I couldn't fit all this into a comment anyway!
Great subjective questions...
This list defines great subjective questions.
What should we do about questions that are not "great"?
I think it's fair to say that if a question met 2 or 3 of these criteria, it could still be good. I believe that being good should be enough to keep a question open. Being great should get it upvotes, unless it is now SE policy to only allow great questions. There should be a middle ground for a subjective question that merely gets it downvotes instead of close votes.
You mention that if a question meets four of the guidelines it's enough to keep a question open, but the criteria are flawed as four of the six guidelines them refer to the qualities of the answers, rather than the question and two of them have co-dependencies, so can't really be counted separately. Let me go through the criteria:
inspire answers that explain "why" and "how".
tend to have long, not short, answers.
Given that we do not yet know what the as-yet unposted answers are going to be like, shouldn't we give each and every question a fair kick of the can to actually see some of the answers before we close it? How long should that be?
have a constructive, fair, and impartial tone.
Agreed. But isn't this expected as a given for any SE question or answer, not just subjective ones?
invite sharing experiences over opinions.
insist that opinion be backed up with facts and references.
These two points really need to be combined as one, particularly if people are using a count of these guidelines as a reason for closing or downvoting a question. If you word a question to strictly follow the "experience" guideline, by definition you should not even need the "opinion" guideline, so it is impossible currently for a question to meet all six guidelines.
It should read
invite sharing experience over opinions; if opinions are shared without experience, insist they are backed up with facts and references.
Finally, we come to:
are more than just mindless social fun.
Once the few joke and quote questions are gotten out of the way (and I think they have already), I'm not sure if there are many new questions that would really fall foul of this that wouldn't just be closed as off-topic, but I certainly could be wrong about that.
I've been grumbling about this for a while, so I've decided to try and post something constructive about this post and ask for clarifications that are not in the post or linked blog. You might argue that this isn't really an answer, but the post isn't really a question. I couldn't fit all this into a comment anyway!
Great subjective questions...
This list defines great subjective questions.
What should we do about questions that are not "great"?
I think it's fair to say that if a question met 2 or 3 of these criteria, it could still be good. I believe that being good should be enough to keep a question open. Being great should get it upvotes, unless it is now SE policy to only allow great questions. There should be a middle ground for a subjective question that merely gets it downvotes instead of close votes.
You mention that if a question meets four of the guidelines it's enough to keep a question open, but the criteria are flawed as four of the six guidelines refer to the qualities of the answers, rather than the question and two of them have co-dependencies, so can't really be counted separately. Let me go through the criteria:
inspire answers that explain "why" and "how".
tend to have long, not short, answers.
Given that we do not yet know what the as-yet unposted answers are going to be like, shouldn't we give each and every question a fair kick of the can to actually see some of the answers before we close it? How long should that be?
have a constructive, fair, and impartial tone.
Agreed. But isn't this expected as a given for any SE question or answer, not just subjective ones?
invite sharing experiences over opinions.
insist that opinion be backed up with facts and references.
These two points really need to be combined as one, particularly if people are using a count of these guidelines as a reason for closing or downvoting a question. If you word a question to strictly follow the "experience" guideline, by definition you should not even need the "opinion" guideline, so it is impossible currently for a question to meet all six guidelines.
It should read
invite sharing experience over opinions; if opinions are shared without experience, insist they are backed up with facts and references.
Finally, we come to:
are more than just mindless social fun.
Once the few joke and quote questions are gotten out of the way (and I think they have already), I'm not sure if there are many new questions that would really fall foul of this that wouldn't just be closed as off-topic, but I certainly could be wrong about that.
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I've been grumbling about this for a while, so I've decided to try and post something constructive about this post and ask for clarifications that are not in the post or linked blog. You might argue that this isn't really an answer, but the post isn't really a question. I couldn't fit all this into a comment anyway!
Great subjective questions...
This list defines great subjective questions.
What should we do about questions that are not "great"?
I think it's fair to say that if a question met 2 or 3 of these criteria, it could still be good. I believe that being good should be enough to keep a question open. Being great should get it upvotes, unless it is now SE policy to only allow great questions. There should be a middle ground for a subjective question that merely gets it downvotes instead of close votes.
You mention that if a question meets four of the guidelines it's enough to keep a question open, but the criteria are flawed as four of the six guidelines them refer to the qualities of the answers, rather than the question and two of them have co-dependencies, so can't really be counted separately. Let me go through the criteria:
inspire answers that explain "why" and "how".
tend to have long, not short, answers.
Given that we do not yet know what the as-yet unposted answers are going to be like, shouldn't we give each and every question a fair kick of the can to actually see some of the answers before we close it? How long should that be?
have a constructive, fair, and impartial tone.
Agreed. But isn't this expected as a given for any SE question or answer, not just subjective ones?
invite sharing experiences over opinions.
insist that opinion be backed up with facts and references.
These two points really need to be combined as one, particularly if people are using a count of these guidelines as a reason for closing or downvoting a question. If you word a question to strictly follow the "experience" guideline, by definition you should not even need the "opinion" guideline, so it is impossible currently for a question to meet all six guidelines.
It should read
invite sharing experience over opinions; if opinions are shared without experience, insist they are backed up with facts and references.
Finally, we come to:
are more than just mindless social fun.
Once the few joke and quote questions are gotten out of the way (and I think they have already), I'm not sure if there are many new questions that would really fall foul of this that wouldn't just be closed as off-topic, but I certainly could be wrong about that.
By the way, are we planning on closing the always-friday-in-iceland tagged questions on meta.SO, or are they okay, because that's where the grown-ups play?
I've been grumbling about this for a while, so I've decided to try and post something constructive about this post and ask for clarifications that are not in the post or linked blog. You might argue that this isn't really an answer, but the post isn't really a question. I couldn't fit all this into a comment anyway!
Great subjective questions...
This list defines great subjective questions.
What should we do about questions that are not "great"?
I think it's fair to say that if a question met 2 or 3 of these criteria, it could still be good. I believe that being good should be enough to keep a question open. Being great should get it upvotes, unless it is now SE policy to only allow great questions. There should be a middle ground for a subjective question that merely gets it downvotes instead of close votes.
You mention that if a question meets four of the guidelines it's enough to keep a question open, but the criteria are flawed as four of the six guidelines them refer to the qualities of the answers, rather than the question and two of them have co-dependencies, so can't really be counted separately. Let me go through the criteria:
inspire answers that explain "why" and "how".
tend to have long, not short, answers.
Given that we do not yet know what the as-yet unposted answers are going to be like, shouldn't we give each and every question a fair kick of the can to actually see some of the answers before we close it? How long should that be?
have a constructive, fair, and impartial tone.
Agreed. But isn't this expected as a given for any SE question or answer, not just subjective ones?
invite sharing experiences over opinions.
insist that opinion be backed up with facts and references.
These two points really need to be combined as one, particularly if people are using a count of these guidelines as a reason for closing or downvoting a question. If you word a question to strictly follow the "experience" guideline, by definition you should not even need the "opinion" guideline, so it is impossible currently for a question to meet all six guidelines.
It should read
invite sharing experience over opinions; if opinions are shared without experience, insist they are backed up with facts and references.
Finally, we come to:
are more than just mindless social fun.
Once the few joke and quote questions are gotten out of the way (and I think they have already), I'm not sure if there are many new questions that would really fall foul of this that wouldn't just be closed as off-topic, but I certainly could be wrong about that.
By the way, are we planning on closing the always-friday-in-iceland tagged questions on meta.SO, or are they okay, because that's where the grown-ups play?
I've been grumbling about this for a while, so I've decided to try and post something constructive about this post and ask for clarifications that are not in the post or linked blog. You might argue that this isn't really an answer, but the post isn't really a question. I couldn't fit all this into a comment anyway!
Great subjective questions...
This list defines great subjective questions.
What should we do about questions that are not "great"?
I think it's fair to say that if a question met 2 or 3 of these criteria, it could still be good. I believe that being good should be enough to keep a question open. Being great should get it upvotes, unless it is now SE policy to only allow great questions. There should be a middle ground for a subjective question that merely gets it downvotes instead of close votes.
You mention that if a question meets four of the guidelines it's enough to keep a question open, but the criteria are flawed as four of the six guidelines them refer to the qualities of the answers, rather than the question and two of them have co-dependencies, so can't really be counted separately. Let me go through the criteria:
inspire answers that explain "why" and "how".
tend to have long, not short, answers.
Given that we do not yet know what the as-yet unposted answers are going to be like, shouldn't we give each and every question a fair kick of the can to actually see some of the answers before we close it? How long should that be?
have a constructive, fair, and impartial tone.
Agreed. But isn't this expected as a given for any SE question or answer, not just subjective ones?
invite sharing experiences over opinions.
insist that opinion be backed up with facts and references.
These two points really need to be combined as one, particularly if people are using a count of these guidelines as a reason for closing or downvoting a question. If you word a question to strictly follow the "experience" guideline, by definition you should not even need the "opinion" guideline, so it is impossible currently for a question to meet all six guidelines.
It should read
invite sharing experience over opinions; if opinions are shared without experience, insist they are backed up with facts and references.
Finally, we come to:
are more than just mindless social fun.
Once the few joke and quote questions are gotten out of the way (and I think they have already), I'm not sure if there are many new questions that would really fall foul of this that wouldn't just be closed as off-topic, but I certainly could be wrong about that.
I've been grumbling about this for a while, so I've decided to try and post something constructive about this post and ask for clarifications that are not in the post or linked blog. You might argue that this isn't really an answer, but the post isn't really a question. I couldn't fit all this into a comment anyway!
Great subjective questions...
This list defines great subjective questions.
What should we do about questions that are not "great"?
I think it's fair to say that if a question met 2 or 3 of these criteria, it could still be good. I believe that being good should be enough to keep a question open. Being great should get it upvotes, unless it is now SE policy to only allow great questions. There should be a middle ground for a subjective question that merely gets it downvotes instead of close votes.
You mention that if a question meets four of the guidelines it's enough to keep a question open, but the criteria are flawed as four of the six guidelines them refer to the qualities of the answers, rather than the question and two of them have co-dependencies, so can't really be counted separately. Let me go through the criteria:
inspire answers that explain "why" and "how".
tend to have long, not short, answers.
Given that we do not yet know what the as-yet unposted answers are going to be like, shouldn't we give each and every question a fair kick of the can to actually see some of the answers before we close it? How long should that be?
have a constructive, fair, and impartial tone.
Agreed. But isn't this expected as a given for any SE question or answer, not just subjective ones?
invite sharing experiences over opinions.
insist that opinion be backed up with facts and references.
These two points really need to be combined as one, particularly if people are using a count of these guidelines as a reason for closing or downvoting a question. If you word a question to strictly follow the "experience" guideline, by definition you should not even need the "opinion" guideline, so it is impossible currently for a question to meet all six guidelines.
It should read
invite sharing experience over opinions; if opinions are shared without experience, insist they are backed up with facts and references.
Finally, we come to:
are more than just mindless social fun.
Once the few joke and quote questions are gotten out of the way (and I think they have already), I'm not sure if there are many new questions that would really fall foul of this that wouldn't just be closed as off-topic, but I certainly could be wrong about that.
By the way, are we planning on closing the always-friday-in-iceland tagged questions on meta.SO, or are they okay, because that's where the grown-ups play?