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PeppersGhost PeppersGhost 02 Jul 2018 03:59

Then suddenly my heart is wrung
By her distracted air
And I remember wildness lost
And after, swept from there,
Am set down standing in the wood
At the death of the hare.

— Yeats

This hare did not die. This hare is not a victim.

Based on the lore established in SCP-001:O5 by AdminBright AdminBright .
Also partly inspired by a line in SCP-1764 by DrClef DrClef .

I've always felt like "that one time the Foundation committed genocide" deserved to be revisited, so here we are.

Thank you for reading.


Colorblind accessible version!

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SCP-4000 theme song!

Crit credits:

Image credits:

For translators: Photoshop file for warning image


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Last edited on 29 Jun 2019 06:17 by PeppersGhost
by PeppersGhost PeppersGhost , 02 Jul 2018 03:59

Aw yesss, Cosmo Sheldrake!

by BottomOfTheBaarle BottomOfTheBaarle , 09 Jul 2018 01:27
adashivers adashivers 31 Aug 2018 07:07

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Last edited on 26 Dec 2020 20:01 by adashivers
by adashivers adashivers , 31 Aug 2018 07:07
Logan Mikulski Logan Mikulski 10 Mar 2019 04:25

I feel like they should make a movie about this SCP, or an extensive novel going into great detail about all the things that occur in these un-named woods.

by Logan Mikulski Logan Mikulski , 10 Mar 2019 04:25
TriPizza TriPizza 25 May 2019 05:09

I love the artwork. Suitable for a wallpaper for my phone. XD


3P

by TriPizza TriPizza , 25 May 2019 05:09
explanation for why Dr. Japers goes missing at the end
Qcy Qcy 14 Jun 2019 00:16

When Dr. Japers has his last conversation with the bunny, (im guessing ignoring nonmenclature its 4000年3月1日) the bunny gives him a name, and Japers follows through with it, ignoring SEP-2.10. As such, the bunny takes Japer's name, whatever it is was.

Dr. Japers: On the contrary, I'd quite like to hear more of these stories. The life of you and your people is of great interest to me.

"I'm sure it is, fellow scholar."

A strong breeze moves through the house. Neither party speaks for half a minute. The rabbit-person who lives there grunts and places a hand to its head, as if in pain. Dr. Japers places his hand against the teapot.

Why would the bunny want to effectively kill Japers in this way? The bunny has Taken Japer's name in this way, removing him from the world in the process. rereading the transcript, Japers has also violated SEP-2.08 by accident. Fello scholar is a designation.

The teller of the story sips its tea.

Dr. Japers: No, please, go on. These things are of interest to me—I am a fellow scholar, remember?

"As you wish, fellow scholar. I shall talk until the tea is cold."

However, the bunny knows of the nonmenclature of the place. he realizes that he can get out of the place by "hitchhiking" off of a person that visits. How? Notice the shift in the mood after the "Strong breeze" part.

Dr. Japers: It appears the tea has gotten cold. I think it's time I took my leave.

(Speech slightly slurred) "What? You're leaving? I—I should leave too, then."

Dr. Japers rises from the table.

Dr. Japers: No, no no no. I'll be going alone, thank you. It's abrupt, yes, and I'm grievously sorry to do this, but I really must be going. I believe I'm long overdue to return home.

"What is—? I don't... Please, don't go. Something isn't—"

Dr. Japers: It can't be helped.

"Stop! What have you done? I don't know who... what happened to my name? I can't..."

Dr. Japers quickly exits the house. His former companion whimpers and looks at its hands as he leaves.

Dr. Japers: Hm. It does taste rather tart.

"What happened to my name?" "I'm long overdue to return home" "It does taste rather tart"

Japers and the rabbit have swapped bodies. It is hard to notice at first (It took me a couple of re-reads), but the rabbit has just taken over Japer's body, leaving Japers with the rabbit's body. The rabbit does a good job of hiding this fact in the transcript, likely knowing it's recorded. The rabbit is a faerie, from the factory proposal. the founder Wiped out the faeries, but some of them escaped to SCP-4000. The rabbit has been hiding out for exactly 102 years (1911 —> 2013), waiting to return. Thats why he disappears shortly after returning from SCP-4000.

by Qcy Qcy , 14 Jun 2019 00:16
Re: explanation for why Dr. Japers goes missing at the end
Wolfrover Wolfrover 26 Jul 2019 20:35

Very close, but you are in error.

There is no exchanging of bodies in Dr. Japers' case — note that the file states there were no anomalies present in the fur that Japers had shed on his equipment. No, there was a simple exchange of identity, past, present and future. Once the identity is swapped, this Dr. Japers is the only Dr. Japers, and has always been Dr. Japers by any measurable standard of his universe.

by Wolfrover Wolfrover , 26 Jul 2019 20:35
Re: explanation for why Dr. Japers goes missing at the end
Phyl Gray Phyl Gray 29 Jan 2020 09:05

(I know this reply has arrived ages late, but I only recently visited the story and I thought I would present my two cents in case anyone else views this discussion.)

I will agree that this theory of mine is possibly a little flimsy, so I'm open to any counter theories someone might have.

It doesn't seem to me that the rabbit desired to steal his name at first. If you look back that conversation, you will see…

Dr. Japers: No, please, go on. These things are of interest to me—I am a fellow scholar, remember?

… that the doctor re-used a phrase that he previously used to identify himself, possibly becoming a form of personal designation.

The doctor gave himself a name.

You will also see that from that point onward, the rabbit repeatedly refers to him as such.
To me, it seems as though the doctor finally slipped after so many years, and the rabbit took advantage of that moment so that he may finally return to our world as he so desperately desired.

by Phyl Gray Phyl Gray , 29 Jan 2020 09:05
Re: explanation for why Dr. Japers goes missing at the end
Agent Filgram Agent Filgram 25 Jun 2020 05:23

It definitely does seem to be the rabbit that returns with the last line being "thorough analysis showed no genetic abnormalities in the fur he'd shed on his expedition gear." No one refers to humans as having fur, but it the rabbit had always been the doctor then his fur and the idea of calling it for would be considered normal for the doctor. Tricky SCP.

by Agent Filgram Agent Filgram , 25 Jun 2020 05:23
Re: explanation for why Dr. Japers goes missing at the end
Quartia Panda Quartia Panda 02 Apr 2024 20:45

I would also assume that this is the source of the "incorporeal humanoid that claims it is not a native entity". They're SCP foundation personnel who had their names stolen, which is why you should listen to them.

by Quartia Panda Quartia Panda , 02 Apr 2024 20:45
(account deleted) 25 Jun 2019 06:09

The link to the colorblind-accessible version redirects to 4000contestpeppersghost's second offset, which is an invalid link.

Colroblind-accessible version is here for the record.

Last edited on 25 Jun 2019 06:12 by (account deleted)
by (account deleted), 25 Jun 2019 06:09
PeppersGhost PeppersGhost 29 Jun 2019 06:17

Whoops! Fixed. Thanks!

by PeppersGhost PeppersGhost , 29 Jun 2019 06:17
Croquembouche Croquembouche 02 Jul 2018 04:05

The only 4000 so far that I've been able to upvote without reservation.

I want to read so much more of this.

Last edited on 02 Jul 2018 05:18 by Croquembouche
by Croquembouche Croquembouche , 02 Jul 2018 04:05

Seconded completely.

by MaliceAforethought MaliceAforethought , 02 Jul 2018 09:58
richgio24 richgio24 02 Jul 2018 17:17

Same here, really want to read additional exploration logs or interviews.

by richgio24 richgio24 , 02 Jul 2018 17:17
IAmTheOoga IAmTheOoga 02 Jul 2018 20:52

Same here, this is a fantastic, immersive read.

by IAmTheOoga IAmTheOoga , 02 Jul 2018 20:52
Doctor Ven_Del Doctor Ven_Del 08 Dec 2018 21:48

Indeed, records and discussions like this tend to peek my interest. Otherwise it was an excellent article, great work!

Last edited on 08 Dec 2018 21:49 by Doctor Ven_Del
by Doctor Ven_Del Doctor Ven_Del , 08 Dec 2018 21:48
Logan Mikulski Logan Mikulski 10 Mar 2019 04:27

I feel like they should make a movie about this SCP, or an extensive novel going into great detail about all the things that occur in these un-named woods. (I posted this a second time here because I didn’t mean to post it where I posted it the first time.)

Last edited on 10 Mar 2019 04:36 by Logan Mikulski
by Logan Mikulski Logan Mikulski , 10 Mar 2019 04:27
(account deleted) 02 Jul 2018 04:50

My one gripe with the article is that it takes a very long time to reveal what exactly any of this has to do with history, of any kind.


Welcome to my post history. Enjoy your stay.

by (account deleted), 02 Jul 2018 04:50
PeppersGhost PeppersGhost 02 Jul 2018 06:56

Fair enough, though personally I'm quite happy with how the article starts in the present and steadily reveals more and more about the past. I was torn between using this as my 4K entry or going with another idea I had, and I ended up choosing this one specifically because it tells the story backwards.

History is decided by the victors. The only reason these things seem like dangerous monsters at first glance is because the Foundation has chosen to expunge an entire genocide from the record. History provides context for the present, and the absence of that context in the beginning of the article demonstrates how skewed things can seem when you don't know the whole story.

by PeppersGhost PeppersGhost , 02 Jul 2018 06:56
JetpackAwaaay JetpackAwaaay 02 Jul 2018 10:45

I don't think that's an issue. You would only be thinking about that in terms of it being a contest entry. As a skip it works with you only finding the historical aspect at the end, and it does have that historical aspect.

It fits the requirements and I don't think, if it were 4000, people would have any issues with it appearing modern until the very end.

by JetpackAwaaay JetpackAwaaay , 02 Jul 2018 10:45
The Great Hippo The Great Hippo 02 Jul 2018 06:55

This was absurdly excellent when I saw it as a draft, and it remains absurdly excellent now. From the perspective of prose, presentation, and pacing, this is among my favorite skips of all times. I don't think there's enough good things I can say about it; it's just a pitch perfect execution from top to bottom. This is the kind of article I'd want to show someone if I want them to understand stuff like escalation, atmosphere, and keeping your readers glued to every sentence.

ETA: Seriously though seeing this article as a draft is partly what made me go "omg I have to collab with this person"

Last edited on 02 Jul 2018 07:09 by The Great Hippo
by The Great Hippo The Great Hippo , 02 Jul 2018 06:55
Alainpbat Alainpbat 23 Aug 2018 01:43

I second that

by Alainpbat Alainpbat , 23 Aug 2018 01:43
Toa_Vine Toa_Vine 02 Jul 2018 07:05

This is profoundly disturbing to me. The pictures as well as the small procedures and rituals, because I know I'd fail them instantly. Suberbly paced too.

by Toa_Vine Toa_Vine , 02 Jul 2018 07:05
(account deleted) 02 Jul 2018 07:22

We secure. We contain. Most importantly, we protect. We protect the world from anomalies, yes, but the inverse is equally true. GOC, Obskuracorps, Foundation—whatever name you align yourself with, if you choose death, you will stopped

Missing a word there?

I love mindfuck articles like this, because I'm never sure if the Foundation knows there's something up and is just going along with it to appease the anomaly, or if they're completely clueless. +1.

by (account deleted), 02 Jul 2018 07:22
PeppersGhost PeppersGhost 02 Jul 2018 07:25

I feex <3

by PeppersGhost PeppersGhost , 02 Jul 2018 07:25
(account deleted) 02 Jul 2018 10:19

The unnamed world does not adhere does not adhere to the constraints of linear space.

Was that intentional or a mistake?

by (account deleted), 02 Jul 2018 10:19
JetpackAwaaay JetpackAwaaay 02 Jul 2018 10:36

I was going to make a comment about it until I got to the "mercy mercy mercy" part. Makes me think it was intentional.

by JetpackAwaaay JetpackAwaaay , 02 Jul 2018 10:36
Cliff Mariachi Cliff Mariachi 07 Sep 2018 16:41

Interview #2 second bunny dialogue has a typo "You went in off quite a hurry."
Maybe it's intentional. It doesn't resonate like intentional strangeness to me, though. I'll just say it's a typo and if I'm wrong then it won't matter anyway.

by Cliff Mariachi Cliff Mariachi , 07 Sep 2018 16:41
Cliff Mariachi Cliff Mariachi 07 Sep 2018 16:42

Glad there was a place up high where I could mention this because I wouldn't have enjoyed burying it under other comments.

by Cliff Mariachi Cliff Mariachi , 07 Sep 2018 16:42
JetpackAwaaay JetpackAwaaay 02 Jul 2018 10:47

I really love this. Very unique, which I think is very important for a major skip.

I've also had a gripe for a while now about how almost all skips are set in/discovered in the USA. Glad it has been explained finally.

by JetpackAwaaay JetpackAwaaay , 02 Jul 2018 10:47
sirpudding sirpudding 02 Jul 2018 12:10

Very literally a journey into the dark woods, which at first felt so obvious, but eventually distinguished itself as a disturbing enough faerie tale.

It's too bad we can't have tags like "faerie". :(

by sirpudding sirpudding , 02 Jul 2018 12:10
djkaktus djkaktus 02 Jul 2018 12:28

I mention them in 2932. Two more articles and we've got a canon, baby.

by djkaktus djkaktus , 02 Jul 2018 12:28
sirpudding sirpudding 02 Jul 2018 12:38

The last time I counted there were about 13 if I remember correctly. The problem is that these kinds of tags have been rejected, I think.

Last edited on 02 Jul 2018 12:39 by sirpudding
by sirpudding sirpudding , 02 Jul 2018 12:38
BlackFX BlackFX 02 Jul 2018 17:11

This is an intriguing journey into an old time fairytale, with a touch of Alice in Wonderland (I mean, there even is a white rabbit). The whole ritualistic and fantastic procedure to get in, and the very specific instructions for interaction truly help you to dive deep in that strange forest.

Also, that is a bit minor but I do want to say that I am colorblind and the passage with the unsaturated red and green text was a bit hard to read because of that.

by BlackFX BlackFX , 02 Jul 2018 17:11
PeppersGhost PeppersGhost 03 Jul 2018 02:58

Hi there! Based on your suggestion, I have created a colorblind accessible version of the document.

by PeppersGhost PeppersGhost , 03 Jul 2018 02:58
BlackFX BlackFX 08 Jul 2018 19:34

This is great. To be honest I think I prefer this version to the original, I think the gothic font go very well with the feel of the article

by BlackFX BlackFX , 08 Jul 2018 19:34
DeRockProject DeRockProject 17 Jul 2018 17:39

I like it so much, in fact, that maybe these could just be combined to 1 article with both the color and font? It makes sense for foundation to be efficient about it in this way, I believe. One article for both the colorblind and the not.

by DeRockProject DeRockProject , 17 Jul 2018 17:39
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