IJAMEA Hub / Discussion
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Date: 05 May 2017 15:43
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Dr Solo Dr Solo 05 May 2017 15:44

Finally! Here's the IJAMEA hub, a collaborative project between MrWrong and myself over the last few weeks. This piece is littered with all sorts of history, and one of my favorite aspects is our many nods to entities and concepts created over on the Japanese branch of the wiki. Hope you like it.

Vladimir Tkalčić of Flickr (https://tinyurl.com/kvx74gh) under CC BY-NC-ND 2.0
vasse nicolas, antoine of Flickr (https://tinyurl.com/kpyd3cl) under CC BY 2.0
tokyoform of Flickr (https://tinyurl.com/n6rlt4h) under CC BY-NC-ND 2.0
John Tewell of Flickr (https://tinyurl.com/l4w894h) under CC BY-NC 2.0
The IJAMEA ensign was made by me for the wiki, and released under our CC license

Last edited on 11 May 2017 23:25 by Dr Solo
by Dr Solo Dr Solo , 05 May 2017 15:44
Co-Author Post
MrWrong MrWrong 05 May 2017 15:54

Firstly, allow me to thank Solo for starting this thing and allowing me to basically expand upon IJAMEA. This is my first collab, and I am only honoured to have partaken in it to the very end.

Speaking as a RL Japanese Studies minor (in progress), it was an absolute honour to have written all of that down.

It is often said that the Japanese like to integrate the culture of others and make it theirs, from Chinese characters to Western technology. After all, Wakon-kansai (和魂漢才 "Japanese spirit and Chinese scholarship") and Wakon-yōsai (和魂洋才 "Japanese spirit and Western techniques") are cultural phenomena.

IJAMEA would be no more different, bringing a Western exterior to the Japanese paranormal scene. They will grow and adapt to whatever that works. If something can shake the America that ended Imperial Japan, why not learn from it?

Shushu-in and Unit Negative Numbers are GoIs from the Japanese site (more information in English available here). Since a significant number of users from the JP site think that all parties can co-exist, I suppose a brief mention would be in order.

Thank you to fumeinadebaisu fumeinadebaisu for bringing the poll up.

Last edited on 05 May 2017 15:57 by MrWrong
by MrWrong MrWrong , 05 May 2017 15:54
Staff Post: Open

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Edit: Problem resolved.

Last edited on 12 May 2017 00:31 by Doctor Cimmerian
by Doctor Cimmerian Doctor Cimmerian , 11 May 2017 22:45
Re: Staff Post: Open
Dr Solo Dr Solo 12 May 2017 00:10

The images in question have been removed.

by Dr Solo Dr Solo , 12 May 2017 00:10
Additional Image Attribution
MrWrong MrWrong 07 Aug 2017 07:56

jjok of Wikimedia Commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Korean_soldiers_and_Chinese_captives_in_First_Sino-Japanese_War.png) under Public Domain

Max Pixel (http://maxpixel.freegreatpicture.com/Train-Salaryman-Tokyo-Wait-Japan-Subway-1529456) under CC0 Public Domain

ralph repo of Wikimedia Commons (link) under CC BY 2.0

Last edited on 17 Nov 2017 05:22 by MrWrong
by MrWrong MrWrong , 07 Aug 2017 07:56
(account deleted) 05 May 2017 15:58

ordinarily i'd leave some faux-witty comment here, but the hard work and thought you guys've put into this project is respectable and i really like it. IJAMEA is one of my favorite things that the site's put out thus far in 2017 and I can't wait to see more of its material.

by (account deleted), 05 May 2017 15:58
qntm qntm 05 May 2017 16:39

It may interest you to know that you can use multiple [footnoteblock]s, one on each tab, if you wish.

Last edited on 05 May 2017 16:40 by qntm
by qntm qntm , 05 May 2017 16:39
MrWrong MrWrong 05 May 2017 16:46

Thank you for highlighting that, although I don't think it's fully necessary since the footnotes are not really evenly distributed.

by MrWrong MrWrong , 05 May 2017 16:46
RJB_R RJB_R 05 May 2017 17:16

This is sweet.


Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!

by RJB_R RJB_R , 05 May 2017 17:16
GreenWolf GreenWolf 21 May 2017 23:17

It may interest you to know that you can change the color of the bullet points in the sidebar using:

#side-bar img {
 filter: hue-rotate(210deg);
 -webkit-filter: hue-rotate(210deg);
}
#side-bar div.side-block:nth-child(4) > div:nth-child(1) > div:nth-child(1) img {
 filter: none;
 -webkit-filter: none;
}

(This one will turn the red sidebar bullet points blue. Different colors can be achieved by passing a different value to hue-rotate.)

There's some other stuff you can do to, like changing the color of top bar search button, and changing the colors of tabs and such. On the whole though, nice work on the CSS.

by GreenWolf GreenWolf , 21 May 2017 23:17
Nederbird Nederbird 31 Jul 2017 23:47

Just found out about this and I'm really excited! Been really curious about the IJAMEA before, but haven't found that much about it. I'll plough through this material at the soonest opportunity. Hope it gets a place on the GoI list soon!

by Nederbird Nederbird , 31 Jul 2017 23:47
Occultists.png
Salamander724 Salamander724 16 Nov 2017 17:48

The rear line soldiers of this picture are Korean, not Japanese. And this picture was taken during First Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895), not WWI.

(source)

Of course, it's not violation of any policy to make an error in historical background, but it can be sensitive among the nations invaded by Pre-war Japan(such as Korean, Chinese, Taiwanese). Just think about relation between Nazi and Poland.

Last edited on 16 Nov 2017 17:56 by Salamander724
by Salamander724 Salamander724 , 16 Nov 2017 17:48
Re: Occultists.png
MrWrong MrWrong 17 Nov 2017 05:07

Yes, I am aware of the original source. I cited it myself.

Perhaps I ought to photoshop the gentlemen in the rear.

by MrWrong MrWrong , 17 Nov 2017 05:07
Modern_Erasmus Modern_Erasmus 17 Nov 2017 05:17

Since you guys have more than 5x3 now, shouldn't this be added to the main GOI page?

by Modern_Erasmus Modern_Erasmus , 17 Nov 2017 05:17
MrWrong MrWrong 17 Nov 2017 14:42

I don't know about Solo's opinion, but my opinion of the matter is that more works from a wider range of authors would be needed before I think it deserves to be on the main GoI list. Currently, I still think it is relatively niche and wider acceptance/participation from the readership is needed before making it to the GoI list.

by MrWrong MrWrong , 17 Nov 2017 14:42
Modern_Erasmus Modern_Erasmus 17 Nov 2017 14:51

If you say so. It does meet all the requirements to be considered one.

Last edited on 17 Nov 2017 14:51 by Modern_Erasmus
by Modern_Erasmus Modern_Erasmus , 17 Nov 2017 14:51
Dr Solo Dr Solo 04 Jan 2018 20:11

It technically meets the requirement, but I agree with Wrong in that I would like to see more works by more folks before we head in that direction

by Dr Solo Dr Solo , 04 Jan 2018 20:11
Occultists.JPG Again
varitas096 varitas096 25 May 2018 06:16

The soldiers in the picture are obviously white people instead of Japanese. Besides, all the "occultists" have a "pigtail", which is forbidden after the Revolution of 1911 in China.

In fact, this picture was taken during Siege of the International Legations (June 20 – August 14, 1900), which, as same as First Sino-Japanese War, was a brutal invasion to China. and those Chinese are "boxers" captured by American soldiers.

It's an obvious error in historical background.

Last edited on 28 May 2018 05:49 by varitas096
by varitas096 varitas096 , 25 May 2018 06:16
Re: Occultists.JPG Again
sirpudding sirpudding 25 May 2018 15:35

The soldiers in the picture are obviously Aryans instead of Japanese.

They are pretty obviously not. Indo-European people didn't exist for millenia when this photo was taken, nor was Iran a significant belligerent in the Boxer Rebellion.

You appear to be using a usage of "Aryan" based on an ignorant, racist, misreading of the Rig Veda, and popularized by Nazis.

Last edited on 25 May 2018 15:48 by sirpudding
by sirpudding sirpudding , 25 May 2018 15:35
Re: Occultists.JPG Again
varitas096 varitas096 25 May 2018 23:13

My apologize… Thanks for pointing out.

I have corrected my mistake.

by varitas096 varitas096 , 25 May 2018 23:13
Re: Occultists.JPG Again
W Asriel W Asriel 27 May 2018 16:21

I believe that no one here means to be racism, or intends to harm anyone. Not everyone are experts in history, and some historical facts that may seem obvious and important to one culture, that are a matter of principle, may be neglected or misunderstood by others. All we beed is a bit patience and willingness to correct ourselves.

by W Asriel W Asriel , 27 May 2018 16:21
Re: Occultists.JPG Again
la kanro la kanro 21 Sep 2021 00:17

well these "pigtails" are still an obvious error that a Chinese reader might notice easily. i know u can't find a real killing sculpture picture to illustrate 173, but at least find something that won't give it away.

by la kanro la kanro , 21 Sep 2021 00:17
GoI Page Blurb Proposal
Nederbird Nederbird 18 Jul 2018 01:34

Since I feel the IJAMEA both deserves and needs a blurb on the GoI page to attract more readers and contributors, I went ahead and wrote one.

This is my draft proposal for an IJAMEA blurb to be displayed on the GoI page. Feedback is most welcome. If you feel this requires a significant rewrite, feel free to go ahead and do it, no need to ask me. Just post it here for others to evaluate as well.

The Imperial Japanese Anomalous Matters Examination Agency or IJAMEA (not to be confused with the Foundation precursor IGAMEA, the Imperial German Anomalous Matters Examination Agency), was Japan's official and primary anomaly agency in the period from the Meiji Restoration in 1868 until the end of World War II in 1945. IJAMEA was founded with the purpose to bring Japan up to speed with Western esoterics research, acting as a modern counterpart to pre-existing so-called "primitive" groups. In this capacity, the IJAMEA catalogued hundreds of different anomalies spread throughout Japan and her colonies, conducted extensive research on these, and undertook numerous projects aiming to utilize the anomalous for the greater good of the fledgling Empire.

IJAMEA saw its most significant role during WWII, when it attempted to weaponize several anomalies to assist military forces in the war against the Allies. Rushed planning and insufficient funds, however, resulted in few of these programmes bearing fruit. The IJAMEA was formally disbanded with the Treaty of San Fransisco in 1951, and most of its assets were either transferred to GOC control or covertly acquired by the Foundation.

However, imperial loyalists and Japanese nationalists within it kept IJAMEA alive in the post-War years, this time as a clandestine organization, during which it's main focus was checking the spread of communist influence in Japan and East Asia. Today, it primarily serves to care for the well-being of Japan's diverse but faltering anomalous ecology, and supports various nationalist agendas with its ties to prominent politicians, businesspeople and cultural personalities throughout Japan. It seeks to return some political power to the Imperial family and return Japan to great power status, and actively seek to exploit the various anomalies in its possession for this purpose. The Foundation is seen as a foreign rival at best, and agents are to exercise due caution when interacting with IJAMEA personnel.

Last edited on 24 Jul 2018 22:00 by Nederbird
by Nederbird Nederbird , 18 Jul 2018 01:34
Re: GoI Page Blurb Proposal
MrWrong MrWrong 23 Jul 2018 17:22

Just managed to notice this. May I suggest a few tweaks?

acting as a modern counterpart to the Bureau of Onmyō (which later joined the Foundation) and the Shūshūin, both of which it was meant to supplant

I would suggest to go for 'modern counterpart to pre-existing so-called "primitive" groups', which can leave the option to depict even more groups in pre-modern Japan.

by MrWrong MrWrong , 23 Jul 2018 17:22
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