> Like, job control but not tied to the terminal driver? Stop a job > from one window, come back later and resume it in another? Sounds > kind of interesting to me. i suppose. kind of reminds me of the hacked 9wm i had, to accept a simple set of commands from a named pipe for window placement. i wrote 9vwm, a virtual window manager, in es. god, it was horrible. never used it. :-) steve