(1) Not to be a process-prick, but shouldn't all the various ideas not be bandied about as brainstorming options [1] rather than starting with a spec [2]. (2) Any thoughts as to whether using LABEL [3] would work for you ... it's stretching the definition only a little, but validators don't seem to mind. Regards, etc... [1] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=figure-brainstorming&action=edit -- doesn't even exist! [2] http://microformats.org/wiki/figure [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.9.1 -- David Janes Founder, BlogMatrix http://www.blogmatrix.com http://www.onaswarm.com http://www.onamine.com