[uf-discuss] testing results - was hcard question

Fri Jul 21 08:37:37 PDT 2006

Hi Drew
I'm assuming the microformat scrapers look at the code and not the visual
design. I've been adding extra information in sections that use display:none
for microformat purposes and adding the appropriate classes to the content
that is already in the visual design. On this level, the a include shouldn't
be a problem if it is using display:none. The screenreader will ignore the
link. 
However, you are correct in that a screenreader will announce that a link is
present. I'll check on our end as well.
Thanks
Ted Drake
Yahoo! Tech - Tech Made Easy
Member of the Yahoo! Accessibility Stakeholders Group

On 20 Jul 2006, at 19:37, Ted Drake wrote:
> I'm trying the latest version of the include pattern and I'm still not
> seeing the product title appear in the reviews. This is near the 
> top of the
> page:
>> <h2 id="prodname" class="item fn">Apple iPod nano 2GB Black MP3 
> Player</h2>
>> And this is in the midst of each review:
> <a href="#prodname" class="include microformatdetail"></a>
>> The CSS is display:none for .microformatdetail
>> Has this pattern been made official? Is it just that tails is not
> recognizing it?

The a.include pattern is very new, and not quite official yet. There 
are a couple of preliminary implementations around, but I'd be 
surprised to find it in Tails at this point.
There were some concerns raised about the screen-reader friendliness 
of using an empty link element with an href. My attempts to 
investigate this have fallen flat a little, as my guy with the screen- 
readers is short on bandwidth. If anyone has access to screen- 
readers, we're interested in how the various links on the below pages 
behave:
http://allinthehead.com/demo/include.html
http://allinthehead.com/demo/include-verbose.html
drew.