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kiamlaluno
00:26
@Shog9 Drupal Answers' elections are really open. :-)
Wonders why the autocomplete doesn't autocomplete "Shog9."
Yi Jiang's Proble_
He hasn't been here for a while now?
kiamlaluno
@Yi Jiang's Proble_ @YiJiangsProble_ I think he was here the past week: It was him to told me about the moderators' elections.
Now I wonder if my idea of time is a bit off.
Yes, it was January 3.
I was undecided between "Shog9" and "NineShogsShogging."
Is the autocomplete autocompleted when it autocompletes itself?
(This is a way to stop your hiccup: Say "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck would chuck wood?" 10 times. I keep biting my tongue; therefore, I am not sure it's really effective.)
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mootinator
02:14
,l[li]][=u
Tim Stone
My sentiments exactly.
mootinator
I'm glad you feel that way.
I'm also glad my focus was on this and not source code when my daughter decided to mash my keyboard without me noticing.
jcolebrand
Kevin is that a kermit pic?
Tim Stone
@mootinator @mootinator Heh, that would have made for an interesting bug report.
mootinator
Nope.
(It's Robin)
jcolebrand
02:25
I was not even aware
mootinator
So can you kick some DBA users around until they answer my stupid question?
jcolebrand
link me
mootinator
0

mootinatorBeing new to Oracle, I'm almost certain I'm missing something simple here. This is what I'm trying to run: declare type string_table IS TABLE OF VARCHAR2(512); outuser nvarchar2(512); outrole nvarchar2(512); result number(38); usernames string_table; rolenames string_table; begin usernames(1) ...

jcolebrand
so nudged
I presume this useless looking page was equally useless?
mootinator
I wrote it off as useless looking.
But I suppose it couldn't hurt to look closer.
jcolebrand
02:39
It might give you some bonus while you wait
xiaohouzi79
03:06
Any mods here who can give me some advice?
jcolebrand
It usually works better to start out with the problem
However, since I was tardy in response, I'll go ahead and go fishing as well
xiaohouzi79
@RebeccaChernoff - Hi Rebecca, are you still online?
@TimStone - Hi Tim, are you online?
mootinator
03:26
@jcolebrand @jcolebrand Ugh I know what the problem is.
jcolebrand
@mootinator @mootinator what's that?
@xiaohouzi79 am I alone?
xiaohouzi79
No I'm here
jcolebrand
You sir, apparently, do not understand that I too am a moderator, and TimStone is not
mootinator
@jcolebrand @jcolebrand Similar types aren't compatible in Oracle.
xiaohouzi79
Excuse my ignorance....
On the Chinese site
We currently don't have any mods
jcolebrand
xiaohouzi79
and I think I am the only one who can approve edits
mootinator
So, I have to figure out how/where that procedure defines it's actual TYPE and use that instead of string_table without having access to the procedre.
jcolebrand
@xiaohouzi79 @xiaohouzi79 Have you proposed a post on meta.chinese.se to have some pro-tem moderators?
xiaohouzi79
In the past couple of days one of the nicer folks on the site edited someone elses question and the only thing they did was remove a bullet point
Yes, it is there
jcolebrand
@xiaohouzi79 @xiaohouzi79 and you're curious if you should approve the edit?
xiaohouzi79
03:29
the mod post I mean, just hasn't been actioned yet
No........ continue my story.........
Ok, so I approved it because the bullet point was poor formatting
But the asker used comments to 'have a go' at the person who did an edit suggesting they were time wasting etc. etc. with some additional finger pointing
Earlier today I noticed an edit from the offended party of an answer that the editor did which was a pretty poor edit, but still slightly improved the formatting and slightly improved the grammart
jcolebrand
Did you flag those comments?
You should have already flagged them before you came here
xiaohouzi79
They weren't so nasty. Just not helpful. But I agree with you now
jcolebrand
continue please
xiaohouzi79
Now I have come back from lunch there are 15 edits.
jcolebrand
and then I have some questions after you continue to your completion
xiaohouzi79
03:32
All from the 'offended' person and only for the posts that were done by the helpful person
They are "good" edits, but only slightly so. But the number of edits I would view as a personal attack. It's jerkish behaviour
to put it nicely
-finished-
jcolebrand
Is it the nature of the site that most of these posts or edits are done in a traditional Chinese style?
Or is the style mostly western?
The reason for my asking is this:
In the West we are told of a highly stylized and highly ritualistic East, especially in Chinese. In the West we are told that the Chinese are highly skilled in maneuverings, especially with words, and I'm curious if the "good" edits are really an attempt to bring that same ritual of attack and parry with words to a technical site. Since I can't judge the first question, I can't even begin to judge the second one.
xiaohouzi79
It's in English and both of the people involved are non-background Chinese speakers
jcolebrand
there you go
I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a cultural issue looming.
xiaohouzi79
Nup, I'm sure I would have picked that if it was and taken a different approach
jcolebrand
In that case, you have three options: Draw them both into chat and chastise them, establishing yourself as a higher personage (you already said you are probably the only one that can monitor edits); leave them alone until someone else comes along; approve them if they are substantially beneficial edits or refuse them if they are not substantially beneficial
I would opt for the third one, with an encouragement on meta that those who are frustrated over edit rejections come to chat to discuss it more openly and quickly, instead of taking a long time for responses
But we do ask that in chat English be the preferred language, if only for purposes of moderation. Until we get several moderators who can moderate in the native tongue.
If you need someone else to confirm these suggestions of mine, or to refute my suggestions, I can probably summon someone from the Stack Exchange Employees
xiaohouzi79
03:39
Ok. I think that sounds fine.
We do use English (mostly) for our chats because it is a predominantly non-background speakers site
jcolebrand
Well we had quite a stir on chat.so because people were chatting in whatever language they cared for
xiaohouzi79
Next question, in regards to the pro-tem moderators, how should we get that post actioned?
jcolebrand
Can you link me to it?
xiaohouzi79
6

NullUserException If your meta site does not have a post to nominate Moderators, start one now! Pro Tem appointments will begin about two weeks after the site is created. The more guidance we receive, the more informed our choice. Moderator Pro Tempore Each nomination should be a separate answer. Link the na...

jcolebrand
3 weeks launched, that post up for a week ... hmmm
I'll ask a SE Employee to step over and have a look and leave some commentary
xiaohouzi79
03:44
No problems, thanks for your help
There have been a couple of small issues on the site, would be good if we had some mods.
jcolebrand
Well keep flagging stuff like you had a mod
and if it gets really bad, come here and scream for help
@xiaohouzi79 @xiaohouzi79 Also, for what it's worth, the word from on high is "it's being handled" so ... that to me is code for "we're going to make something happen there soon"
but since they don't tell me anymore than they tell you ;-)
xiaohouzi79
04:00
@jcolebrand - Thanks for that
jcolebrand
@xiaohouzi79 @xiaohouzi79 aye
xiaohouzi79
Is there anything like flag weight for edits
?
mootinator
Documented for the next fool on the internet who stumbles across this silliness.
0

mootinatorI discovered that collections must have the same data type for an assignment to work. Having the same element type is not enough. Armed with this information, I set out to figure out what type I needed to use: SQL> select OBJECT_NAME, OWNER from SYS.ALL_OBJECTS where UPPER(OBJECT_TYPE) = ' P...

xiaohouzi79
After going through that persons edits there were 8/16 that were too minor, like adding a single comma or backslash
jcolebrand
@xiaohouzi79 @xiaohouzi79 then you're right to block them/deny them
@xiaohouzi79 @xiaohouzi79 there is, yes
xiaohouzi79
04:05
@jcolebrand - is there a meta post (MSO) that describes it, I did a quick scan?
Is this correct from March this year:
2

Stuart PeggIf not, is there a large enough quantity of edits to warrant such a thing? Not a feature request as such, just a product of curiosity.

jcolebrand
Yes, that's what I meant.
it's not a single score, but the system will block routinely bad editors
Anonymous
13

Mark TrappWhen a registered user gets enough suggested edits rejected, they're blocked from suggesting edits for a number of days. I've always assumed it was a user-level block, but what about anonymous suggested edits? Can anonymous users suggest edits with impunity, or is there a lower-level block (like...

jcolebrand
additionally, they gain rep from approved edits
xiaohouzi79
Ok, got it. Thanks again.
jcolebrand
good find Jeremy
xiaohouzi79
04:06
@JeremyBanks - Thanks
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jjj
jjj
08:14
guys
could anyone help me with vb code
asp.net
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xiaohouzi79
10:32
Any mods online that can give me a hand?
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Sathya
13:44
hey @balpha - thanks for the shower of badges
balpha
only 47? disappoint
Sathya
it's 48, actually
but then again, that's a jackpot :P
for me anyway
Tim Stone
Wait, did two people mistake me for Tim Post in one night? :P
Sathya
#OccupyTim
Tim Stone
Hahah
jadarnel27
13:58
That sounds uncomfortable.
Szabolcs
14:09
What happens to images that are not references in any SO post any more? I've been uploading, correcting, and re-uploading many PNG images recently. I wonder if this is considered bad behaviour (because I'm filling up SO's image storage space)
Sathya
@Szabolcs @Szabolcs well.. you could try to keep it as low as possible
Szabolcs
Which of course I do,
but I was wondering if there's anything to worry about at all?
Sathya
I wouldn't worry about it
Sathya
jadarnel27
@Szabolcs I think that all the storage is on imgur, not stackexchange.
Yi Jiang's Proble_
Huh, I just got 8 badges? How did that happen?
Oh, interesting. Multiple times
Tim Stone
22

balphaThis is actually already in the works. The Announcer / Booster / Publicist triad will behave like other similar badge groups afterwards, e.g. Nice Answer / Good Answer / Great Answer or Notable Question / Famous Question. In particular: The timeframe will not matter anymore. You still get the F...

2
jadarnel27
I frequently feel the urge to downvote / upvote content on other sites now, and feel disappointed when I cannot do so.
Oh...and RAWR.
Anonymous
Anonymous
<3s to balpha for the gift of unexpected badges.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Networks golds went from 10 to 16; I look so much more cool.
jadarnel27
Haha, that is fantastic.
@JeremyBanks Didja see @Sathya? He got 48 badges from this =)
Anonymous
Ah, I'm repeating the conversation that just happened. :P
jadarnel27
14:52
lol
I'm living vicariously through all of you (I never share, so I didn't get any badges today), so keep it up ;-)
Anonymous
@balpha I think the update gave me a badge for previous visits through /a/ links. Are these supported now? (They previously weren't but there's been some confusion.)
balpha
they weren't (so that was correct), but they are now
Anonymous
Fantastic, thanks.
Szabolcs
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jadarnel27
16:53
Would this question be on topic at Programmers.SE? Does anyone else thinks it's "Not Contructive" / "Not a Real Question" on SO? Maybe I'm crazy.
mootinator
17:27
@jadarnel27 @jadarnel27 Makes a heck of a lot more sense on SO as updated, I think.
jadarnel27
@mootinator Sure does (now)! Thanks for your input. It looks alot better now.
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Chris
18:55
@jcolebrand: Well we had quite a stir on chat.so because people were chatting in whatever language they cared for
@jcolebrand Interesting. So chat must all be conducted in English on Stack Overflow, as well?
mootinator
19:22
@Chris @Chris Quel dommage!
Voulez vous parler avec moi ce soir?
Moshe
There are languages other than English in Canada?
:P
mootinator
Bah.
Quebecers don't speak real French.
jcolebrand
@Chris @Chris it's not a mandate, but it's encouraged.
Anonymous
They speak better French.
Moshe
Working on mah gamification for iPhonification. Yeah!
Darn map loading messing with itself...
mootinator
19:29
Sure, sure.
Anonymous
It can be spoken using less energy, more slurred.
Anonymous
More efficient, perhaps.
Moshe
I once spoke French on Google+ during the summer, somebody popped into a hangout and asked if anyone spoke French.
mootinator
Well they have to be more efficient; it takes twice as many words to say the same thing as English (judging solely from Canadian packaging, that is)
Moshe
@mootinator @mootinator That's what we're told in iOS land when dealing with localization. English takes up about half the space in UI that other languages do.
Don't think that came from Apple, but I've read it somewhere.
mootinator
19:31
Hah, nice.
Anonymous
@mootinator @mootinator Good point. :P
Moshe
Also, the other day I put iTunes on shuffle and lo and behold, Joel Spolsky, speaking in French.
mootinator
jo-El spol-Skee?
3
Moshe
Lol, I was laughing really really hard.
Was fun to wake up to.
jcolebrand
@Moshe @Moshe the information density for most spoken languages is really close to each other, as a function of syllable size over speed. That's all IIRC. The article made the rounds near September/October I believe
Chris
19:34
@Moshe @Moshe Other European languages, perhaps
jcolebrand
anyways, I'm gone agian
Moshe
begone!
Chris
@jcolebrand @jcolebrand Interesting article!
@Moshe @Moshe Laughing because his accent is bad?
Moshe
@Chris @Chris Nah, I wouldn't know. I just thought it would be awesome to have an hour long podcast in French.
Anonymous
@Moshe @Moshe Agreed.
Moshe
19:45
Oh, btw, balpha, it's not snowman season anymore. It's after new years.
jadarnel27
@Moshe @Moshe Still winter though =)
Chris
@jadarnel27 @jadarnel27 In the Northern Hemisphere, at least :)
jadarnel27
@Chris @Chris I fail at internationalization in coding and chat now. Thanks alot!
Or localization. Or globalization. Or replace all the "z"'s with "s"'s if you're in Europe...=)
Chris
20:14
Or L10N
Or I18N
jadarnel27
20:27
Haha, indeed.
Chris
Or S11E
OmegaMan
20:55
anyone know of the next big programmers type conference in the US? I am looking for an excuse to get away someplace warm. (Not that climate change isn
t making CO warm)
mootinator
21:22
Enough with the climate change rote.
OmegaMan
21:39
:-)
Anonymous
22:31
I'm not too bothered, personally, but I worry that allowing unlimited Publicist badges are going to deflate the value of gold in Stack Overflow.
Anonymous
I've already got another one. Once people realize there'll probably be a flood of submissions to proggit until their users are fed up of Stack Overflow posts. :P
amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A
Hi all!
:-)
Anonymous
Greetings to A Man.
amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A
^_^
any Doctor Who fans out here?
^_^
Anonymous
I realize I copied your question, unknowingly.
amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A
22:46
@Anonymous @JeremyBanks ?
Anonymous
3

Jeremy BanksIf you're viewing an unfiltered bounty listing in someone's profile[jeff] the header N bounties isn't capitalized, though every other profile section header is. I think the actual problem is that the unfiltered bounty listing isn't supposed to be displayed. Once you select a filter (active, of...

Anonymous
1

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM AI KNOW I have one active bounty (let us just start off with that). When I 1st go to my profile page and click on bounties it looks like this, showing all the bounties I have ever offered: Ok that is fine. Now onto clicking on active bounties: FINE But now when I reload the profile page an...

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A
WTH.... the mods never came to my Q
can u flag?
im flagging as well
Anonymous
I voted to close as a duplicate of mine, because it was resolved there. :P
Anonymous
I wasn't sure what to do.
Tim Stone
22:48
I also voted to close, but for what it's worth it looks like I had up voted you when you posted it. :P
jadarnel27
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Hello! Long time no see.
amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A
@jadarnel27 @jadarnel27 :-P
@Tim Stone @TimStone VTC the duplicate!
an old Q cannot be a duplicate lol
They should be merged lol
Anonymous
I'm pretty sure there's precedent for older questions being closed as duplicates of new ones, but I don't know an example off the top of my head.
amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A
@Anonymous @JeremyBanks Do not believe so lol
Tim Stone
@Anonymous @JeremyBanks There is (or at least I'm making one up right now), since your question has the actual answer on it.
Anonymous
22:51
7

Michael MrozekWhat's everyone's opinion on closing an older question as a duplicate of a newer one, if the newer one is clearly the better resource? I'm looking at a special case right now, where the two were posted by the same person; the newer was migrated to SU before a commenter pointed out it was a repost...

Tim Stone
@JeremyBanks also gets points for making me laugh a little, since I was amused by Jeff's -123456789 bounties.
Anonymous
:D
amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A
Raynos
23:47
I keep being flagged as a bot by the anti spam bot
I hate captchas
How do I avoid the bot detection
Tim Stone
Are you frequently moving in very deliberate motions that are accompanied by "beep bop beep"?
Hmm, but more seriously, are you editing things extremely frequently? At your reputation level, you shouldn't be able to trigger it very easily..
Raynos
o.o
I dont know
I just answer questions

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