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Hi all, Thanks for sharing. I have always found the comments of Peter Sunde provocative to say the least and an interesting moment of reflection about tactical media. IMHO the Pirate Bay remains a seminal case of media activism (all things considered) especially to see someone like Sunde still receive quasi-MSM attention years after the trial. I often wonder if the case could be made that TPB was a kind of populist movement. (I wrote about it long ago in my MA thesis: http://www.fenwickmckelvey.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/The_Code_and_Politics_of_Drupal_and_The.pdf ). That was always a key moment in TPB:AFK when they watched the reaction to their trial in the news. The interview marks a further turn away from TPB for Sunde. He's been talking about a web of ruin approach for a while, calling on TPB to close (https://torrentfreak.com/peter-sunde-the-pirate-bay-should-stay-down-141210/). It was in line with a kind of e-hydra approach to the Internet in that the closure of TPB might have given space for a new formation to emerge. That window of digital activism for Sunde seems to have closed. In Sunde's comments, I notice a relationship with TPB and accelerationist politics. I've always wondered how much you might think of TPB as accelerationist based on Rasmus Fleischer's blog post: http://copyriot.se/2010/01/13/pirate-politics-from-accelerationism-to-escalationism/. In re-reading his comments, Rasmus suggest a turn toward escalationism (and toward VPNs) that seems to resemble Sunde's own comments about electing Trump. This has me wonder how long accelerationism or interpretations of it have been a part of the TPB's media tactics. I'm still very much working through and disconcerted by accelerationism, but its interested to think of TPB in relation to the trend. Best, Fenwick On 2015年12月13日 at 17:31 Jonathan Marshall <Jonathan.Marshall@uts.edu.au> wrote: Peter: >> I'd say that the biggest 'meme'-hijack of the last 40 years has been >> equating the idea of 'freedom' with the right to purchase - end of >>story. <...> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org