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Patrice: Ah yes -- how could I forget the TRAINS . . . !! <g> As I recall Filippo Martinetti once wrote an influential *manifesto* on that topic. And, a friend of his even made them run on time (until he was hung). My "lineage" (in art history terms) tends more to the VORTICIST (and, thus, anti-futurist) direction. There's something about being denounced as the CRIMINAL who represents all that is wrong about *art* by C.P. Snow that seems to appeal to my instincts. The Enemy Brooklyn NY In a message dated 3/18/2013 10:24:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, patrice@xs4all.nl writes: I am curious who's going to build locomotives then. But could be bots of course. Cheers from p+4D! (love trains, that's why, but they ain't any longer what they were. It's Newmedia's fault! ;-) # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org