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I slightly knew Weizenbaum in the 1980's. He was fond of saying that anything that calls itself "(something) science" as in "computer science" isn't really a science. When he retired and moved back to Berlin he aparently refused to speak English in public any more. Best, Michael # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org