Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
Hi guys,
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere on the forums yet, but it looks like Raspberry Pi silently introduced a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B revision 1.3, that contains a BCM2837B0, instead of the BCM2837A (revision 1.2) or BCM2836 (revision 1.1). Official information here: https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/ra ... 2-model-b/
They also released an official EOL notice, but that's only for revision 1.1 and 1.2: https://pip.raspberrypi.com/documents/R ... i2-eol.pdf
How do you guys think this compares to the BCM2837A in terms of performance and power consumption? Due to the low power, the revision 1.2 specifically is and was very suitable to run as lightweight 24/7 server for tasks that don't require a lot of performance, such as a TVheadend server in combination with the TV HAT.
Now to see where to order one.. :D
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere on the forums yet, but it looks like Raspberry Pi silently introduced a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B revision 1.3, that contains a BCM2837B0, instead of the BCM2837A (revision 1.2) or BCM2836 (revision 1.1). Official information here: https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/ra ... 2-model-b/
They also released an official EOL notice, but that's only for revision 1.1 and 1.2: https://pip.raspberrypi.com/documents/R ... i2-eol.pdf
How do you guys think this compares to the BCM2837A in terms of performance and power consumption? Due to the low power, the revision 1.2 specifically is and was very suitable to run as lightweight 24/7 server for tasks that don't require a lot of performance, such as a TVheadend server in combination with the TV HAT.
Now to see where to order one.. :D
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
Hmmm... While the picture in the link wouldn't seem so, I wonder if this revision is to use the "flipped" BCM2837 with the heat spreader on top....
Will have to see when they actually show up in the channel, though that's hard to determine as most resellers aren't specific enough.
Will have to see when they actually show up in the channel, though that's hard to determine as most resellers aren't specific enough.
Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
Yes - that's what the BCM2837B0 is. BCM2837A0 is the old one with a black package - I guess they just haven't updated the picture yet.W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:42 pmHmmm... While the picture in the link wouldn't seem so, I wonder if this revision is to use the "flipped" BCM2837 with the heat spreader on top....
Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
So it's now a 3B+ without the WiFi/ Bluetooth/ POE ?
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
Ah... Good. I've been waiting for that change for a long time. I'll just have to keep an eye on the Usual Sources.andrum99 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:05 pmYes - that's what the BCM2837B0 is. BCM2837A0 is the old one with a black package - I guess they just haven't updated the picture yet.W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:42 pmHmmm... While the picture in the link wouldn't seem so, I wonder if this revision is to use the "flipped" BCM2837 with the heat spreader on top....
Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
Exactly! That's also what the revision 1.2 was, a Pi 3 but without the extra fluffs, and clocked at 900 Mhz. Even when clocked at 900 Mhz, it gave a considerable performance boost compared to the original BCM2836 of the 1.1 revision, and also consumed less power than either Pi 2 rev 1.1 or Pi 3. You also got 64 bit support as a bonus. ;)
Wondering what the usual sources are, seeing as it is already really difficult to specifically buy a Pi 2 rev 1.2, even when it is listed as such. Most of the time you get a new old stock rev 1.1.W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:00 pmAh... Good. I've been waiting for that change for a long time. I'll just have to keep an eye on the Usual Sources.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
Yes...that's the problem.boe wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:39 pmWondering what the usual sources are, seeing as it is already really difficult to specifically buy a Pi 2 rev 1.2, even when it is listed as such. Most of the time you get a new old stock rev 1.1.W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:00 pmAh... Good. I've been waiting for that change for a long time. I'll just have to keep an eye on the Usual Sources.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
The bcm2836 is going eol so in future only the bcm2837 based Pi2 will be available.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
But doesn't that contradict the EOL statement? Both revision 1.1 and 1.2 are EOL, so also the BCM2837(A) counterpart is going EOL.
I've been in contact with several of the industrial distributors, none of which are able to specifically order the new 1.3 revision, even though the product page specifically recommends revision 1.3.
Do you have any idea how one could order a revision 1.3? The product information page of the Pi 2 (https://pip.raspberrypi.com/categories/ ... -2-model-b) lists either part number SC0021 or SC1029, what are the differences between those?
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
Once stocks of older devices are exhausted only 1.3 will be available.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
Well... That's the problem. If a company still has stocks of the earlier revision, and they're selling slowly, how does one tell when they run out of the old stock? The reseller is very unlikely to say. The times I've asked which revision a reseller had in stock, they have declined to say because they would have to go through all the ones they have to determine that and there is a LOT of pushback if one wants a particular revision.
Now..if the RPT could add to the vendor lists which revisions any give reseller has in stock, it'd be a lot easier for us out here in the cheap seats.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
I doubt we would do that. We sell the 2B as the 2B, irrespective of revision number. It's quite possible there are no 2826 based devices left out there, but it's difficult to tell.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
With the release of v1.3 are the website statements still true ?
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
I understand the issues with old stock, but still find it strange that the website seems to recommend the 1.3 revision specifically, but there is no way to actually get a 1.3 revision.
For me as a consumer that's fine (but unfortunate!), I just wondered how it'd work for larger (industrial) businesses that really want/need to know what revision they're getting. I work in the medical sector, and just "getting" a random revision of a product is usually unacceptable. The embedded IPCs (industrial PCs) we use get new catalog numbers each time a new revision pops up, and sometimes all that changed (for various reasons, including EOL) was a single chip.
One could also argue that with the additional benefits of the BCM2837 SoC (most importantly the 64 bit support) it maybe should've been a Pi 2 Model B+, but that's a different discussion I suppose.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 2 Model B v1.3
Apart from a few, almost the entire Pi 2 production runs do go to businesses*, and we do talk with them regularly about future plans and how to transition between models as needed.
* Very limited demand from general users for three generation old equipment.
* Very limited demand from general users for three generation old equipment.
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