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dchmelik
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years-outdated downloads.raspberrypi.com date

Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:16 pm

The downloads.raspberrypi.com/rpd directory/folder's date is much older (four years) date than OS in it: can administrators please update/touch? I only found out about latest rpd release years later. All other variants--like ARM64 RaspiOS--have main and OS directories match so people can notice releases. Will rpd be updated?
Last edited by dchmelik on Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:47 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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hippy
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Re: years-outdated downloads.raspberrypi.org date

Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:46 pm

Wouldn't issues relating to 'raspberrypi.org' need to be directed to Raspberry Pi Foundation ?

They are now a separate entity to Raspberry Pi Ltd who only administer 'raspberrypi.com', AIUI.

The Raspberry Pi Desktop will be updated when Raspberry Pi find time to do it -
jamesh wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:57 pm
The reason the x86 desktop hasn't been updated is entirely down to a lack of time to do it, nothing to do with altruism. We didn't have time to do it before the IPO, we haven't had time to do it after the IPO. Pretty simple.

scruss
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Re: years-outdated downloads.raspberrypi.org date

Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:01 pm

dchmelik wrote:
Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:16 pm
Will rpd be updated?
Probably not. It was last updated on 2022年07月04日. It was limited to 32-bit x86, which is no longer supported by Debian ("architecture is supported only as a co-architecture for running 32-bit software on amd64")
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dchmelik
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Re: years-outdated downloads.raspberrypi.com date

Wed Oct 29, 2025 5:51 am

Downloads.raspberrypi.(com|org) contents are identical: suggestion remains.
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jojopi
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Re: years-outdated downloads.raspberrypi.com date

Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:48 am

dchmelik wrote:
Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:16 pm
directory/folder's date is much older (four years) date than OS in it
That is how timestamps on directories always work.

When you create/remove/rename a directory entry, that updates the timestamp of the directory. It does not update all the parents all the way back to the root.

The direct contents of rpd_x86/ have not changed, but their contents have.

dchmelik
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Re: years-outdated downloads.raspberrypi.com date

Wed Oct 29, 2025 4:15 pm

jojopi wrote:That is how timestamps on directories always work.
Doesn't matter. The archive administrators either touched or replaced the ARM64 OS directories so their dates match contents and should do same with rpd.
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ShiftPlusOne
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Re: years-outdated downloads.raspberrypi.com date

Wed Oct 29, 2025 4:27 pm

I don't know about the timestamps, they don't have any documented meaning or significance, so I'm not going to touch them. But, getting an amd64 image out is on top of the todo list right now.

KeithMck
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Re: years-outdated downloads.raspberrypi.com date

Wed Oct 29, 2025 6:31 pm

That's good to know, these can be quite handy to use on older PC, look forward to a new version.... :mrgreen:

hippy
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Re: years-outdated downloads.raspberrypi.com date

Thu Oct 30, 2025 2:06 pm

KeithMck wrote:
Wed Oct 29, 2025 6:31 pm
That's good to know, these can be quite handy to use on older PC, look forward to a new version.... :mrgreen:
The 32-bit version of Buster RPD has been very useful to me for very old PC, especially NetBooks and Laptops, but I can appreciate an RPD version of 32-bit Trixie may not be a priority for Raspberry Pi.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem a priority for anyone, nor even desirable these days. So, if wanting to keep old stuff running, it now means running an old RPD Buster, Debian Bookworm or older Windows version.

ShiftPlusOne
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Re: years-outdated downloads.raspberrypi.com date

Thu Oct 30, 2025 3:48 pm

Trixie is a lot heavier than Buster was and Debian no longer supports i386 as a full install (only chroot/containers). So I don't think it will be suitable for the same the really old low end hardware. I'm sure there are still many distros out there more suited for that.

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