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Different boot behavior observed when booting 32-bit version
I have a known-working display+touch connected to SPI0. Prepared a fresh uSD with Trixie, enabled the display and boot it (using same uSD + display) on different Pi's. That's where one can observe a difference in the boot behavior:
CM4 -> when booting the OS the boot logo is well centered on screen
Pi Zero 2 W -> when booting the OS the boot logo is way to big and going 'off-screen' to the right
RPi 3B -> when booting no logo get's shown, just a gray background with 3 white 'dots' (small squares), off-center as well
Bellow snippet is from Pi Zero 2W to give you some details.
Any idea what is causing this quite noticeable difference?
CM4 -> when booting the OS the boot logo is well centered on screen
Pi Zero 2 W -> when booting the OS the boot logo is way to big and going 'off-screen' to the right
RPi 3B -> when booting no logo get's shown, just a gray background with 3 white 'dots' (small squares), off-center as well
Bellow snippet is from Pi Zero 2W to give you some details.
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pi@zero2:~ $ raspinfo
System Information
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Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Rev 1.0
PRETTY_NAME="Raspbian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)"
NAME="Raspbian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="13"
VERSION="13 (trixie)"
Raspberry Pi reference 2025年10月01日
Generated using pi-gen, https://github.com/RPi-Distro/pi-gen, 7385adde4cd7a2bfcf6e6ef0e5b790391c172a8d, stage4
Linux zero2 6.12.51-v7+ #1910 SMP Mon Oct 6 13:39:34 BST 2025 armv7l GNU/Linux
Revision : 902120
Serial : 0000000048cdc993
Model : Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Rev 1.0
Throttled flag : throttled=0x0
Camera : supported=0 detected=0, libcamera interfaces=0
Videocore information
---------------------
Aug 20 2025 17:04:09
Copyright (c) 2012 Broadcom
version cd866525580337c0aee4b25880e1f5f9f674fb24 (clean) (release) (start)
alloc failures: 0
compactions: 0
legacy block fails: 0
Filesystem information
----------------------
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
udev 76788 0 76788 0% /dev
tmpfs 87240 3044 84196 4% /run
/dev/mmcblk0p2 30074436 5025276 23758028 18% /
tmpfs 218096 292 217804 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs 5120 8 5112 1% /run/lock
tmpfs 1024 0 1024 0% /run/credentials/systemd-journald.service
tmpfs 218096 4 218092 1% /tmp
/dev/mmcblk0p1 522230 118100 404130 23% /boot/firmware
tmpfs 43616 68 43548 1% /run/user/1000
tmpfs 1024 0 1024 0% /run/credentials/[email protected]
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/zram0 partition 435196 108288 100
Package version information
---------------------------
raspberrypi-ui-mods:
Installed: (none)
raspberrypi-sys-mods:
Installed: 1:20250929
openbox:
Installed: 3.6.1-12+rpt1
lxpanel:
Installed: (none)
pcmanfm:
Installed: 1.4.0-1+rpt3
rpd-plym-splash:
Installed: 0.44Re: TRIXIE is released! Please comment below!
We're all up to our eyebrows in late beta testing for MX-25, but I wanted to pass along a couple of quick items from my 30 minutes of attention:
1. Clean install of full OS w/o problem on a Pi 5 using a 125G microSD.
2. Appreciate terrific user-oriented changes all over: Control Center, first post-installation opening screens, etc.
3. Reorganization under the hood obviously took a lot of thinking and work, and is a major step forward.
4. Fabulous default wallpaper
Congratulations from the MX Devs on a job extremely well done.
1. Clean install of full OS w/o problem on a Pi 5 using a 125G microSD.
2. Appreciate terrific user-oriented changes all over: Control Center, first post-installation opening screens, etc.
3. Reorganization under the hood obviously took a lot of thinking and work, and is a major step forward.
4. Fabulous default wallpaper
Congratulations from the MX Devs on a job extremely well done.
MX-23 Fluxbox (mxlinux.org) on a Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 5th.
MX-23 RPi Respin on a Pi 5.
MX-23 RPi Respin on a Pi 5.
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Finally! I installed Trixie on the 4th, and had a pretty crazy day of it, but everything is going well now.
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I just had some documents to transfer so I put them on a thumb drive and did the full install of Trixie. When I went to move the folders back from the thumb drive there was a glitch which left the image of a folder stuck to my mouse. The system kept freezing so I rebooted. I was able to copy the folders using copy and paste.
My Pi5 16gb is mounted in an Argon One V5 case but the script to install the case configuration failed. This is the command:
curl https://download.argon40.com/argon1v5.sh | bash
The case provides 2 additional USB ports which are unusable until I get this figured out.
My Pi5 16gb is mounted in an Argon One V5 case but the script to install the case configuration failed. This is the command:
curl https://download.argon40.com/argon1v5.sh | bash
The case provides 2 additional USB ports which are unusable until I get this figured out.
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pdxmark wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 4:01 pmI just had some documents to transfer so I put them on a thumb drive and did the full install of Trixie. When I went to move the folders back from the thumb drive there was a glitch which left the image of a folder stuck to my mouse. The system kept freezing so I rebooted. I was able to copy the folders using copy and paste.
My Pi5 16gb is mounted in an Argon One V5 case but the script to install the case configuration failed. This is the command:
curl https://download.argon40.com/argon1v5.sh | bash
The case provides 2 additional USB ports which are unusable until I get this figured out.
Sounds like something you should take up with argon40
[edit]
At a guess and based on their manual all you need to do is probably add the following to the end of your /boot/firmware/config.txt and reboot:
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This issue's been discussed many times already. Check this for an easy fix
viewtopic.php?t=391916
pdxmark wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 4:01 pmMy Pi5 16gb is mounted in an Argon One V5 case but the script to install the case configuration failed. This is the command:
curl https://download.argon40.com/argon1v5.sh | bash
The case provides 2 additional USB ports which are unusable until I get this figured out.
Why do you say "it failed" ?
This script must NOT be executed with elevated privileges. No "sudo" here...
Try to execute this in a terminal
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argonone-uninstalland start over (no sudo !!!). Installed it many times, as well as for other argon40 cases, never had an issue (except when I tried to install being root)
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I've had that happen to me on Bookworm, so not new. Running near-default system with Wayland, patched up to date. Select one or more files, image of folder attaches to mouse pointer. Move mouse over to target window; however target window doesn't change appearance, and clicking has no effect. Have to select and paste files in some other way.
System otherwise appeared stable. Image only goes on a reboot.
(Not tried Trixie yet - although the minimal length of this tread compared to the Bookworm counterpart suggests it should be pretty trouble-free).
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Thanks to all for the guidance. Both issues are resolved thanks to you all!
- tinker2much
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I now have 11 pi running trixie. Looks great, works fine. A couple bobbles I'm still looking into - maybe on me. Again, mostly just fine.
pi5-8GB, 64-bit full, official 512GB nvme drive and M.2 hat
pi4-8GB, 64-bit, 240GB Kingston A400 SSD over usb
pi4-4GB, 64-bit, 480GB ditto
pi4-2GB, 64-bit, Sandisk Ultra Plus 32GB micro sd card
pi2, 32-bit, ditto
pi zero 2, 32-bit, ditto
1x pi zero W, 32-bit, ditto 16GB
3x pi zero W, 32-bit lite, Microcenter basic 16GB micro sd card
pi zero, 32-bit lite, ditto
A shoutout to Simion et al, for providing ever-better software that can run on machines of such vastly different specs.
A shout-out to bls, whose sdm I used to personalize and burn these. (Fine print: some additional / odder / more complicated modifications were done via my own scripts afterwards, though I'm slowing pushing more of the mods into sdm. So forky will be even easier. ;-) )
pi5-8GB, 64-bit full, official 512GB nvme drive and M.2 hat
pi4-8GB, 64-bit, 240GB Kingston A400 SSD over usb
pi4-4GB, 64-bit, 480GB ditto
pi4-2GB, 64-bit, Sandisk Ultra Plus 32GB micro sd card
pi2, 32-bit, ditto
pi zero 2, 32-bit, ditto
1x pi zero W, 32-bit, ditto 16GB
3x pi zero W, 32-bit lite, Microcenter basic 16GB micro sd card
pi zero, 32-bit lite, ditto
A shoutout to Simion et al, for providing ever-better software that can run on machines of such vastly different specs.
A shout-out to bls, whose sdm I used to personalize and burn these. (Fine print: some additional / odder / more complicated modifications were done via my own scripts afterwards, though I'm slowing pushing more of the mods into sdm. So forky will be even easier. ;-) )
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That's nice to hear !
Have fun !
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I have now tested some hard drives + NVMe in enclosure. I also get error when ejecting. The latest OS, (Trixie) and all the fixes that have come out after October 1st.dwam wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:54 pmMany thanks...Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:20 pmdwam wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 6:52 pmIt's been discussed before in the beta section but maybe this thread will get more attention.
It seems there is something wrong with the "remove safely" feature from PCmanFM and the taskbar. Removable media connected with USB fail to eject properly in Trixie.
I have posted a detailed description of the issue here:
viewtopic.php?p=2340654#p2340635
as well as the commands I use to overcome this problem and prevent my disks from being corrupted
It'd be great if more people could confirm this issue
I tried it, and for me it worked. I've only tested a USB stick so can't answer if it always works.
Yes I wrote that USB sticks don't seem to be affected by this issue... It occurs with sata or nvme disks when plugged with USB
Tested different hard drives and SSDs + enclosures. Western Digital, Seagate, Toshiba. Everyone came out with errors when ejecting. Hoping for a fix. I plug a lot of hard drives and SSDs into my Pi. I use it often and have it like a regular computer often. Powerful enough most of the time.
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Did you try to go manual as I explained in the other thread ?Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:22 pmI have now tested some hard drives + NVMe in enclosure. I also get error when ejecting. The latest OS, (Trixie) and all the fixes that have come out after October 1st.
Tested different hard drives and SSDs + enclosures. Western Digital, Seagate, Toshiba. Everyone came out with errors when ejecting. Hoping for a fix. I plug a lot of hard drives and SSDs into my Pi. I use it often and have it like a regular computer often. Powerful enough most of the time.
When I do this, it ALWAYS works without errors
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dwam@rpi5:~ $ udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdb1
Unmounted /dev/sdb1.
dwam@rpi5:~ $ udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sdb
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Nope, I haven't tried it yet. Do it next time. There is nothing worse than seeing errors when ejecting hard drives with important data on them.dwam wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:28 pmDid you try to go manual as I explained in the other thread ?Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:22 pmI have now tested some hard drives + NVMe in enclosure. I also get error when ejecting. The latest OS, (Trixie) and all the fixes that have come out after October 1st.
Tested different hard drives and SSDs + enclosures. Western Digital, Seagate, Toshiba. Everyone came out with errors when ejecting. Hoping for a fix. I plug a lot of hard drives and SSDs into my Pi. I use it often and have it like a regular computer often. Powerful enough most of the time.
When I do this, it ALWAYS works without errors
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dwam@rpi5:~ $ udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdb1 Unmounted /dev/sdb1. dwam@rpi5:~ $ udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sdb
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I could think of many things worse, restoring from your backup is a mere annoyance.Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:37 pmNope, I haven't tried it yet. Do it next time. There is nothing worse than seeing errors when ejecting hard drives with important data on them.
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wildfire wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:40 pmI could think of many things worse, restoring from your backup is a mere annoyance.Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:37 pmNope, I haven't tried it yet. Do it next time. There is nothing worse than seeing errors when ejecting hard drives with important data on them.
Yep, I don't dare to plug hard drives into the Raspberry Pi as it looks now. Now it's just for testing.
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I've tested in Raspberry Pi OS with KDE Plasma installed on Trixie with: sudo apt install kde-plasma-desktop and everything works fine.Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:22 pmI have now tested some hard drives + NVMe in enclosure. I also get error when ejecting. The latest OS, (Trixie) and all the fixes that have come out after October 1st.dwam wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:54 pmMany thanks...Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:20 pm
I tried it, and for me it worked. I've only tested a USB stick so can't answer if it always works.
Yes I wrote that USB sticks don't seem to be affected by this issue... It occurs with sata or nvme disks when plugged with USB
Tested different hard drives and SSDs + enclosures. Western Digital, Seagate, Toshiba. Everyone came out with errors when ejecting. Hoping for a fix. I plug a lot of hard drives and SSDs into my Pi. I use it often and have it like a regular computer often. Powerful enough most of the time.
So I guess it's a bug-like thing with Raspberry Pi OS as it works if you just put KDE on it. I like both Raspberry Pi OS and KDE Plasma as a desktop environment. Luckily, KDE Plasma doesn't come with too many unnecessary programs as I'm minimalist.
I know there are several ways to eject a USB disk. But I want it easy and it should always work in my opinion.
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I have one RPI5 with Trixie (upgrade from Bookworm) and KDE too and I experience the same issues. It's not as often but it's not 100% safe either... at least for me so far...Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Sun Oct 19, 2025 1:27 pmI've tested in Raspberry Pi OS with KDE Plasma installed on Trixie with: sudo apt install kde-plasma-desktop and everything works fine.
So I guess it's a bug-like thing with Raspberry Pi OS as it works if you just put KDE on it. I like both Raspberry Pi OS and KDE Plasma as a desktop environment. Luckily, KDE Plasma doesn't come with too many unnecessary programs as I'm minimalist.
I know there are several ways to eject a USB disk. But I want it easy and it should always work in my opinion.
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I'm noticing that my Raspberry Pi, is booting straight to desktop at times, instead of going to the login screen.
I swear I didn't change anything in the control centre
I swear I didn't change anything in the control centre
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AFAIK it's the default behaviour, so it makes sense if you did not change this in RPCC
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dwam wrote: ↑Sun Oct 19, 2025 3:56 pmI have one RPI5 with Trixie (upgrade from Bookworm) and KDE too and I experience the same issues. It's not as often but it's not 100% safe either... at least for me so far...Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Sun Oct 19, 2025 1:27 pmI've tested in Raspberry Pi OS with KDE Plasma installed on Trixie with: sudo apt install kde-plasma-desktop and everything works fine.
So I guess it's a bug-like thing with Raspberry Pi OS as it works if you just put KDE on it. I like both Raspberry Pi OS and KDE Plasma as a desktop environment. Luckily, KDE Plasma doesn't come with too many unnecessary programs as I'm minimalist.
I know there are several ways to eject a USB disk. But I want it easy and it should always work in my opinion.
I'll have to try further. Only tried a few times with these drives.
It is a Seagate Barracuda 1TB, Toshiba basic 1TB and a Kingston NVMe 250GB in a Ugreen enclosure.
However, I noticed another thing with Trixie and mobile phones. PCMan File Manager doesn't work with my phone. Samsung. Dolphin worked. Always something ;).
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Yes, I keep telling it to not log straight to desktop
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Same here, there is some update that changes it all the time. Happened three times for me in a week or two.
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Have your tried using raspi-config instead of RPCC?
I noticed they behave differently at times.
However there are many updates these days, so it's hard to say. Worth trying though
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Its annoying, any updates shouldn't be changing any settings at all.Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Sun Oct 19, 2025 5:23 pm
Same here, there is some update that changes it all the time. Happened three times for me in a week or two.
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Start a new topic if you want to report a problem. This this topic is not the best place; it may get lost...RaspyHat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 19, 2025 5:39 pmIts annoying, any updates shouldn't be changing any settings at all.Olydnad_SWE wrote: ↑Sun Oct 19, 2025 5:23 pm
Same here, there is some update that changes it all the time. Happened three times for me in a week or two.
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