V I D E O V I S I O N : Ladytron Interview
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LT:
(Rbn)
I kind-of knew Danny in Liverpool, we're both from Liverpool... basically
from seeing each other in the same clubs and shops in Liverpool. Later we
met up with Helen, who was a music student at Liverpool University. And
later we met up with Mira through a mutual friend.
V V:: Is there a standard process in your creative process? Does
one person write the lyrics and another write the music or is it all collaborative?
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LT:
(Mira) With
604, our first record, that was primarily
done by Danny because he handles the Freddy. With this one ("Light
and Magic") it's a lot more collaborative but there's no standard process.
Every song comes out differently.
VV : Was the succes of "604", an unexpected surprise? Had
you planned on continuing on with Ladytron after you made that album?
LT:
(Rbn)
We didn't really know what to expect at all when we were making that album.
At the time we all had full-time things that we were already doing.
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V V: So it started
more like a side project?
LT:
(Rbn) Well, not really, but...
(Mira) It was more
like taking things one at a time, and just seeing what happens.
(Rbn)
It was something that was just there. We never thought that it was, that
we were, going to get to a certain place, it just happened. So in a way
it was very surprising.
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V V: Rueben, I've
seen you do a DJ set here in SF at the
Cat
Club. It seemed influenced by Ladytron, but you also did other
stuff with a different style than Ladytron. Do all four of you continue
your own side projects?
LT:
(Rbn) We all DJ now, and we all play different music.
So it's always interesting to hear what each of us (individually) have to
play. And also to have a look at the difference between the first record
and the second record and hear all of the new combined elements in there
now.
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V V: Do you see
Ladytron as your main gig though?
LT:
(M, R) Yeah, there's no time for anything else now.
(Mira)
We come off tour on Monday and we're in London for a four day break, but
during that time we have to go to Paris, and after four days we start a
new European tour. There's not enough time to do your laundrey let alone
start another band.
(Rbn) We may as well just sit on the tour bus
(for 4 days) and just wait for it to begin again.
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V V: Are you happy
with that right now?
LT:
(Cato) Yeah ! We're very lucky, it's a very good thing
to do.
V V: Regarding artists and image, do you feel it's necessary to label
music with a certain style or name? For instance, the music magazines are
calling Ladytron "the next best group in electro synth pop". Do
you think categorizing music is useful or just a marketing ploy towards
the consumers?
LT:
(Mira) Well it's categorizing by the media or an industry
for a marketing ploy, and definitely not categorizing by the band. There's
no need to narrow yourself down in any way, and putting labels (on the band
and music) really narrows you. Plus, we've always just done our own thing,
and never been the "next thing" in anything. We don't know what we're going
to do.
(Rbn) Categorizing can helpful to the extent that it gives
a new-comer pointers to new bands, labels and influences. But it gets taken
a bit too far when people say "ALL THIS" equals one thing, and that's when
it gets a bit frustrating.
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V V: I read an
interview which expressed surprise that Danny is interested in soccer...
I suppose there was a surprise because it didn't fit in the image of the
band.
LT:
(Mira) But that's some kind of image that people have
imprinted on us.
(Rbn) It is weird... it's stuff which is absorbed
by the media which is reabsorbed into us and it becomes this never ending
circle...
(Mira) You have to face up to things which are said about
you all the time and it's...
(Rbn) We're always reading things which
are written about us and it's...
(Mira) It's funny.
(Rbn)
Yeah, it's funny.
V V: So there's
no concern that you have to fit this certain image if you want to stay...
LT:
(Mira) No! Not at all.
(Rbn) If anything, it makes
it more exciting really.
(M) And it makes us want to break that image
a bit more, really.
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V V: So about
your music videos... With your video for
Seventeen ,
the director, David Chaudoir, was there a lot of collaboration between the
band, and the director and the concept for the video?
LT:
(Mira) A little bit, but at first people approaced us
with different treatments. And one day we read about 20 of them, and most
of them were absolutely abysmal - like really literal and they were really
funny. It's a bit difficult reading treatments, I guess, and the one we
chose is the one we didn't laugh at. So we decided to persevere with it
and we met the guy and talked about it. It was the one that fit the song
the best because it's not really in your face and it doesn't define and
narrow the song down to anything. It kind-of leaves things open, which is
the way we feel about the song as well.
(Rbn) I think we're quite
unwilling to write a brief and give it to everyone because they'll all come
back with the same idea. And it's always nice to see other interpretations,
because it's not just our interpretation which matters, it's the listener.
(Mira) It's also important to us to not be over interpreted, and
this video was not over interpreted (whereas others were). We kind of wanted
a booty based video, but we didn't really get away with it. This one has
a bit of it but...
(Rbn) Yeah, we wanted champagne and white fur
coats...
(Mira) We wanted big guns and low rider cars but...
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V V: So there's no concern that you have to fit this certain image
if you want to stay...
LT:
(Mira) No! Not at all.
(Rbn) If anything, it makes
it more exciting really.
(M) And it makes us want to break that image
a bit more, really.
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V V: When you
saw it for the first time, did it trigger something in you similar to when
you created the song like "this is what I saw it as"?
LT:
(Mira) We do everything for the day. And every time we
play "Seventeen" or hear it, it becomes a different thing, because
it's in a different situation. So it's not about nostalgia because every
time you hear it you feel something different about it. So when we recorded
"Seventeen", we were just having a laugh while we were doing it
rather than thinking how it would look or feel later on.
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V V: What do you think about music videos? Do you see them as a necessary
promotional tool for bands trying to survive or even make it?
LT:
(Rbn) I don't think it's a necessary evil. It's going
to be an even more important part of songs... music that can be bought by
people. With all the issues regarding piracy, I think the record companies
need to start thinking about putting more value into what people actually
buy - what they take home, rather than just the music itself.
(Mira)
It's also really great because most musicians are really visual and it's
great to be able to play around with it as well, so it's good fun for musicians.
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V V: Given that
there's only four lines in
Seventeen ,
was that a primary concept for the video, to reflect that sparseness?
LT:
(Mira) Yes, the sparseness of the video is very much linked
to the sparseness of the song. But it kind of grows in a different way...
like we came up with four lines which we thought were strong, so there was
no point in putting other stuff around it.
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V V: Your work
with Interpol, and the remix of
Blue Jeans - is that true that it's
only going to be a UK release? How did that come about?
LT:
(Rbn) For now it's only for UK release, we're not sure
about the US. We just hooked up with them somehow, befriended them. When
we get some free time (haha) we're going to do the remix of their song.
We're not sure which one, we'll see.
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V V: Is there
an instrument or kind of keyboard that you could call the base of the Ladytron
sound?
LT:
(Rbn) I use an MS-10, because I tend to play more bass
lines live.
(Mira) I use the MS-20 all the time. Everyone uses something
different.
V V: Do you tend to experiment more when you're in the studio or
playing a live show? What's the major differences between playing live and
studio sets?
LT:
(Rbn) I think we experiment quite a bit more when we're
jamming on stage. Because after playing them so much, you get to know songs
really well, so you start to explore and experimenting with them. And you
end up thinking, "that could be a new song... "
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VV: Do you read
the audience at all when you're experimenting or (are you) into your own
thing?
LT:
(Mira) It's more like being into your own thing, and how
you feel. And it depends what kind of sound you're getting from the stage;
sometimes you'll hear new things from that place, or you can make a mistake
and like it.
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V V: Mira, you
were studying genetics at Oxford? Are you still doing that?
LT:
(Mira) I was writing up, but it's kind-of taken a back
seat. I haven't written anything for six or seven months.
(Rbn) You
shouldn't be saying that on TV?
(Mira) My professor's too busy reading
papers to watch television.