IRC Log for #microformats on 2007年03月19日

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  5. [00:23:16] <pawlik> ;>
  6. [00:28:32] <pawlik> ?def pawlik is Maciej Pawlowski, Poland (mpawlowski.pl)
  7. [00:28:33] <jibot> pawlik is Maciej Pawlowski, Poland (mpawlowski.pl)
  8. [00:28:40] <pawlik> nice one, jibot ;>
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  28. [04:59:05] <mfbot> [[include-pattern-feedback]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern-feedback&diff=0&oldid=14376 * JiriKopsa * (+786) Objects and Browser Behavior -
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  35. [05:24:00] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  39. [05:43:23] <mfbot> [[User:JiriKopsa]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:JiriKopsa * JiriKopsa * (+39)
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  45. [06:14:40] <mfbot> [[hcard-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-parsing&diff=0&oldid=14377 * JiriKopsa * (-1) Include Pattern and Table Headers -
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  50. [07:16:48] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  53. [07:22:01] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  55. [07:36:24] <mfbot> [[User talk:JiriKopsa]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:JiriKopsa * AndyMabbett * (+71) welcome
  56. [07:38:15] <mfbot> [[include-pattern-feedback]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern-feedback&diff=0&oldid=14378 * AndyMabbett * (+2) fix link
  57. [07:40:46] <mfbot> [[Template:welcome]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:welcome&diff=0&oldid=14379 * AndyMabbett * (+143) sign with tildes
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  69. [08:48:45] <mfbot> [[species-examples-quantitative]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-quantitative&diff=0&oldid=14380 * AndyMabbett * (+294) Evidence - WikiFlora
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  72. [09:01:49] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  76. [09:25:28] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  83. [09:45:18] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  85. [10:00:59] <mfbot> [[isbn]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=isbn&diff=0&oldid=14381 * Brian * (+127) Added discussion about merging to UID
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  92. [10:26:50] <mfbot> [[presentations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations-fr&diff=0&oldid=14382 * ChristopheDucamp * (+237)
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  94. [10:27:53] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
  95. [10:30:32] <mfbot> [[events-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr&diff=0&oldid=14383 * ChristopheDucamp * (+182) A venir : -
  96. [10:30:43] <mfbot> [[events-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr&diff=0&oldid=14384 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) A venir : -
  97. [10:32:04] <mfbot> [[events-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr&diff=0&oldid=14385 * ChristopheDucamp * (+37) A venir : -
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  103. [11:20:09] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
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  108. [11:44:51] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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  110. [12:06:34] <mfbot> [[isbn]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=isbn&diff=0&oldid=14386 * AndyMabbett * (+40) Next steps - sp., refelct on-going discussion
  111. [12:13:55] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=14387 * AndyMabbett * (+203) more acrhcives
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  114. [12:14:40] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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  116. [12:16:05] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
  117. [12:19:17] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=14388 * AndyMabbett * (+205) another
  118. [12:42:19] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=14389 * Tantek * (-205) removed unnecessary/inflamatory text
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  120. [12:50:40] <mfbot> [[governance]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance&diff=0&oldid=14390 * Tantek * (-321) remove unnecessary details
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  130. [13:23:00] <jibot> amir is Amir Guindehi and blogs at http://amir.ch/weblog
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  137. [13:42:18] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=14391 * Tantek * (-4) minimizing
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  142. [14:12:13] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
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  147. [14:27:39] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  149. [14:39:34] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
  150. [14:45:21] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14392 * AndyMabbett * (+117) Examples -
  151. [14:46:07] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14393 * AndyMabbett * (+127) Examples -
  152. [14:48:33] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=14394 * AndyMabbett * (+10) Using the same text to link to differnet targets is a breach of WCAG
  153. [14:49:21] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=14395 * AndyMabbett * (+1) fix
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  155. [14:49:51] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
  156. [14:51:12] <mkaply> tantek: I figured out what I was trying to say about technorati not using rel-tag. How come when you go to the main page of technorati, the tags in the tag cloud aren't marked with rel-tag?
  157. [14:52:25] <tantek> because that's not what rel-tag means
  158. [14:53:11] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14396 * Tantek * (-2453) Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by DrErnie
  159. [14:55:42] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14397 * Tantek * (+2209) previous revert was only meant to revert to *this* version. please do not troll by calling public wiki revisions "censorship".
  160. [14:57:13] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=14398 * Tantek * (-11) Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by Tantek
  161. [14:58:04] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=14399 * Tantek * (-36) shortened to uniquify link text.
  162. [14:58:57] <tantek> mkaply, explicitly, the main page of Technorati is not "tagged" with those tags in the tag cloud.
  163. [14:59:07] <tantek> those are simply references to tag pages, not tags themselves
  164. [14:59:46] <mkaply> OK, that makes sense.
  165. [15:00:01] <mkaply> On a side note about rel-tag, I did find a major vendor who screwed it up - Drupal
  166. [15:00:20] <mfbot> [[include-pattern-feedback-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern-feedback-fr&diff=0&oldid=14400 * ChristopheDucamp * (+907)
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  168. [15:04:57] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
  169. [15:08:24] <tantek> Drupal is an open source project right, or is there also a vendor named Drupal?
  170. [15:11:02] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14401 * AndyMabbett * (+206) Examples -
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  172. [15:13:34] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
  173. [15:14:18] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14402 * Tantek * (-206) Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by Tantek
  174. [15:15:39] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14403 * Tantek * (+5) previous revert is a second warning. please do not troll by calling public wiki revisions "censorship".
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  187. [15:48:08] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  189. [15:52:11] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14408 * Steve Ganz * (+16)
  190. [15:54:42] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14409 * AndyMabbett * (+242) let's have a little honesty... (citations provided)
  191. [15:56:23] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14410 * AndyMabbett * (+3) sdate (preceeding citation applies)
  192. [15:57:34] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14411 * AndyMabbett * (-4) grammar
  193. [16:00:00] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14412 * Tantek * (-241) Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by Steve Ganz
  194. [16:02:32] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14413 * Tantek * (+152) previous revert was due to false statements and removal of content. tried to add some links back. please don't remove the content.
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  196. [16:04:05] <tantek> am I the only one that finds it ironic that in a discussion/survey on the wiki of whether or not to unmoderate Andy Mabbett on the mailing lists, that he himself is behaving in a negatively adversarial way that seems to be asking to be banned from the wiki?
  197. [16:04:46] * briansuda nodes
  198. [16:04:56] <tantek> I would have at least expected that he vote for himself on the page. ;)
  199. [16:05:18] <tantek> (rather than simply being negatively adversarial)
  200. [16:05:36] <briansuda> tantek, i did see your suggestion about the FN == NICKNAME idea, i think it will work., but i do have a few questions still
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  202. [16:06:05] <tantek> briansuda - good to know. please add questions/issues to that section on hcard-brainstorming and we'll figure it out.
  203. [16:06:06] <briansuda> previously if the nickname was only one "word" long it was put as the family-name in the N
  204. [16:06:25] <briansuda> but your suggestion was to just leave N blank. i'll add some stuff to the wiki
  205. [16:06:42] <tantek> i don't have time to chat now unfortunately - sorry about that - I will check the wiki
  206. [16:07:33] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14414 * AndyMabbett * (+616) The truth (no content reomved; per request). Please do not make accusations of false statements unelss you can substantiate them with citatations.
  207. [16:07:59] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14415 * AndyMabbett * (+11) fix
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  210. [16:13:46] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14417 * Tantek * (+12) previous revert was due to removal of negatively adversarial behavior, or an attempt to waste time looking thru email archives, or both. see microformats-discuss archives. everything is there.
  211. [16:14:17] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14418 * AndyMabbett * (+119) Examples -
  212. [16:15:33] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14419 * AndyMabbett * (-154) removal of negatively adversarial behavior,
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  214. [16:17:14] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14420 * Tantek * (+239) in addition, previous revert was a 2nd time reversion of bad content, and thus consider it a second warning to not put bad content on this page.
  215. [16:17:25] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14421 * DrErnie * (+248) re-incorporated Andy's edits with neutral POV
  216. [16:19:19] * briansuda cringes, thinks this is NOT a good way to show you will be a good community citizen
  217. [16:20:21] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14422 * AndyMabbett * (-11) Examples - what controversy?
  218. [16:21:17] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14423 * Tantek * (+11) Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by DrErnie
  219. [16:21:58] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14424 * AndyMabbett * (+20) Examples - clarify & make unique link texts
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  221. [16:22:24] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14425 * AndyMabbett * (+19) Examples - ditto
  222. [16:22:50] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14426 * AndyMabbett * (+19) Examples - ditto
  223. [16:22:52] <tantek> BrianSuda, I am tending to agree, Andy Mabbett's behavior, far from demonstrating being a good community citizen, demonstrates (by way of action) that he far more interested in tearing down the community than being constructive.
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  227. [16:24:01] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14427 * DrErnie * (+119) governance-issues
  228. [16:25:02] <tantek> I am going to drop this now for about an hour just to see what happens. I'm not optimistic. BrianSuda, or other admins, feel free to step in.
  229. [16:25:32] * briansuda will try to keep and eye on things
  230. [16:26:07] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14428 * AndyMabbett * (+21) Examples - date last
  231. [16:26:33] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14429 * JoeAndrieu * (+17)
  232. [16:27:04] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14430 * AndyMabbett * (-22) Examples - URL fix
  233. [16:27:35] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14431 * AndyMabbett * (-5) Examples - no controversy
  234. [16:35:22] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists-fr&diff=0&oldid=14432 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3501)
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  237. [16:38:13] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14433 * JoeAndrieu * (+605) Added discussion section and question on governance
  238. [16:42:44] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists-proposals-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/mailing-lists-proposals-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+8562) page à traduire
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  240. [16:46:55] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14434 * AndyMabbett * (+246) Discussion - cited quote
  241. [16:47:26] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14435 * AndyMabbett * (+5) Discussion - calrify
  242. [16:49:17] <davecardwell> is that last edit pertinent to the discussion about Andy Mabbet being unmoderated, or a governance issue?
  243. [16:53:10] <briansuda> it is a wiki, feel free to move it around
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  245. [16:53:11] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
  246. [16:53:46] <briansuda> i think it answees the rhetorical question
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  248. [16:56:24] <mkaply> briansuda: What exactly was the html:abbr problem that I've seen referred to? Is it documented somewhere?
  249. [16:56:45] <briansuda> which "problem"?
  250. [16:57:01] <mkaply> as in why some sites have to have <html:abbr> vs just <abbr>
  251. [16:57:02] <briansuda> there was an issue with versions of IE not accepting ABBR
  252. [16:57:07] <briansuda> yes
  253. [16:57:08] <briansuda> ok
  254. [16:57:26] <briansuda> early versions of IE only recognized the ACRONYM element
  255. [16:57:30] <briansuda> and NOT the ABBR
  256. [16:57:45] <briansuda> if you walk the DOM and look for getElementByName('abbr')
  257. [16:57:49] <briansuda> it returned NULL
  258. [16:58:01] <briansuda> so (i think) if you also had the namespace and abbr it would find it
  259. [16:58:11] <briansuda> and/or away to hide it from IE
  260. [16:58:15] <mkaply> So there might be microformats that use <html:abbr instead of <abbr
  261. [16:58:16] <mkaply> ?
  262. [16:58:19] <briansuda> i'm not sure if that is still a problem?
  263. [16:58:28] * briansuda hunts for a links
  264. [16:59:29] <mkaply> last comment here
  265. [16:59:29] <mkaply> http://www.kaply.com/weblog/operator-bugs/
  266. [17:00:38] <briansuda> http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2006-08-13#T212137
  267. [17:00:46] <mkaply> hmm. Apparently .nodeName in that case is html:abbr and not abbr?
  268. [17:00:58] <briansuda> that is strange, because it SHOULD be abbr
  269. [17:01:08] <briansuda> HTML is the namespace, unless it isn't declared at the top?
  270. [17:02:24] <briansuda> http://dean.edwards.name/my/abbr-cadabra.html
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  272. [17:02:40] <mkaply> 0001: propnode.nodeName
  273. [17:02:41] <mkaply> $[0] = [string] "HTML:ABBR"
  274. [17:03:00] <mkaply> tagName is HTML:ABBR as well.
  275. [17:04:54] <mkaply> It does appear to have a namespace
  276. [17:05:38] <briansuda> i wonder if that is an issue with the Mozilla engine and not your code?
  277. [17:06:15] <briansuda> i fixed it in XSLT by using name() = 'abbr' instead of local-name() = 'abbr'
  278. [17:06:19] <briansuda> or maybe vice versa?
  279. [17:07:43] <mkaply> actually, the mozilla folk are saying that it's working as designed. That's an HTML page.
  280. [17:07:48] <mkaply> and there are no namespaces in HTML
  281. [17:07:54] <mkaply> So technically that really is an <html:abbr> tag
  282. [17:07:59] <briansuda> ah...
  283. [17:08:11] <briansuda> that's splitting hairs isn't it!
  284. [17:08:13] <mkaply> So I'll have to special case it. Bleah
  285. [17:08:37] <mkaply> in every microformat. Lovely
  286. [17:08:38] <briansuda> well, maybe not. You could reply to the author and see if he has a work around to serve the page as XHTML?
  287. [17:09:10] <briansuda> or just add a function to explode on ':' for every element. not just ABBR
  288. [17:10:02] <briansuda> or maybe if IE 7/8 fixes this problem it will disappear?
  289. [17:10:42] <briansuda> i don't have IE7, but http://dean.edwards.name/my/abbr-cadabra.html would tell you? or email the commenter directly to let them know the issue
  290. [17:11:40] <mkaply> I'll at least email the owner of the hatom page.
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  292. [17:12:58] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  298. [17:21:31] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
  299. [17:22:59] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14436 * JacksonWilkinson * (+26)
  300. [17:25:30] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14437 * Phae * (+605) Discussion -
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  305. [17:49:33] <mkaply> OK, so for whoever is here. Need an opinion. What microformats should be in the default Operator vs. being made available separately?
  306. [17:51:03] <briansuda> hCard/hCalendar +1
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  308. [17:51:10] <briansuda> Geo +1
  309. [17:51:22] <briansuda> Tags +1
  310. [17:51:51] <tantek> mkaply, it should be a matter of "well-established" microformats
  311. [17:51:56] <mkaply> FYI, others are: XFN, hAtom, hResume, hReview, xFolk
  312. [17:51:59] <tantek> vs. in progress microformats with broad interest
  313. [17:52:27] <briansuda> XFN is nice, but what "actions" could you do?
  314. [17:52:29] <mkaply> It's going to be really easy to install in progress microformats. Not as easy as greasemonkey, but you will be able to go in preferences and point to a JS file and have it installed.
  315. [17:52:47] <mkaply> briansuda: view their web page. IT's probably more of a debug thing. I'll move that out to installable
  316. [17:53:38] <briansuda> you know better what the over-all vision for Operator is, if it is going to be more part of the UI, etc? then you shouldn't over power the choices
  317. [17:53:57] <tantek> vs. in progress microformats with interest from only one or a very few number of people
  318. [17:54:05] <mkaply> yeah. We're discussing that with Moz folk right now. I just wanted to know what ones should definitely be out. (like species)
  319. [17:54:34] <mkaply> And the more I think about it, XFN. It really doesn't work on a menu
  320. [17:54:55] <tantek> mkpaly, brian's question is the right way to think about it also
  321. [17:54:58] <tantek> what would you do with the info?
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  323. [17:55:19] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  324. [17:55:51] <mkaply> actually, that's kind of a problem with hResume as well. All you can do is search on the persons's name. But the emurse guy would freak if I dropped it :)
  325. [17:56:07] <mkaply> s/dropped/relegated to second class
  326. [17:56:24] <mkaply> there's not much to do with hAtom either right now.
  327. [17:56:56] <mkaply> The only ones that have good user actions are hCard, hCalendar, geo, tag, xFolk
  328. [17:57:42] <briansuda> xFolk is just a sub-set of hReview (IMHO)
  329. [17:57:51] <briansuda> you can do all the same stuff with hReview and more
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  331. [17:58:07] <tantek> hAtom you can subscribe to, via the XSLT
  332. [17:58:08] <mkaply> well, xfolk has a URL associated with it. So I can do things like send it to delicous
  333. [17:58:10] <mkaply> or magnolia
  334. [17:58:13] <briansuda> look at what Tails does, the list pretty much the same
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  336. [17:58:28] <mkaply> tantek: Well in order to do that, you have to redirect to another site that does the hatom->atom conversion
  337. [17:58:29] <briansuda> hReview has a URL, tags, summary ...
  338. [17:58:40] <mkaply> hReview doesn't have a required URL.
  339. [17:58:41] <tantek> mkaply, that is correct
  340. [17:58:59] <mkaply> tantek: I've been pondering doing something more interesting with hAtom. Just haven't had time
  341. [17:59:18] <briansuda> there is always version 2
  342. [17:59:40] <briansuda> start small and avoid feature creap
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  344. [18:07:28] <jibot> bewest is Ben West and lives in San Francisco, CA. He daydreams about web style software, works at Alexa.com and blogs at http://bewest.wordpress.com/
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  350. [18:39:04] <bewest> wow lots of list activity
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  355. [19:00:01] <jibot> Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
  356. [19:00:19] <mkaply> Phae: You need to enlighten a flickr user
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  358. [19:00:39] <Phae> what what?
  359. [19:00:42] <Phae> (hello)
  360. [19:00:47] <mkaply> http://flickr.com/photos/99904004@N00/423098949/
  361. [19:00:52] <mkaply> http://flickr.com/photos/99904004@N00/423109946/
  362. [19:01:01] <Phae> swish
  363. [19:01:15] <bewest> heh
  364. [19:01:21] <Phae> man. i look miserable
  365. [19:01:36] <Phae> less so in the first
  366. [19:01:47] <mkaply> I look miserable in the first. Like I'm about to puke or something
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  368. [19:02:05] <Phae> heh.. it'd have been the excitment
  369. [19:02:17] <mkaply> But at least you're giving me a nice look
  370. [19:02:34] <Phae> http://flickr.com/photos/99904004@N00/423109959/in/set-72157600002963733/
  371. [19:02:40] <Phae> that looks scary. is that our room?
  372. [19:03:05] <mkaply> Nope, that's a different room. Orientation is different
  373. [19:03:23] <bewest> heh. I have a yaris
  374. [19:03:24] <Phae> ah yes
  375. [19:04:24] <mkaply> I'm sorry I didn't get to hang out with anyone on Tues night. Plus I never got my T shirt
  376. [19:04:52] <Phae> :(
  377. [19:04:59] <Phae> I'm sure tantek'll get you one
  378. [19:05:27] <bewest> those are nice pictures. you don't look like you're about to throw up
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  381. [19:07:40] <briansuda> you should add some of those links to the wiki page about the event
  382. [19:07:55] <Phae> there's a half dozen photos on there atm.
  383. [19:07:57] <briansuda> http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2007-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of
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  393. [19:35:49] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists-proposals-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists-proposals-fr&diff=0&oldid=14440 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1090) [fr:à relire]
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  397. [19:45:36] <mfbot> [[rel-tag-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-fr&diff=0&oldid=14442 * ChristopheDucamp * (+166) Implémentations - ajout hubtag
  398. [19:47:37] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14443 * Spike * (+25) +1 from Spike
  399. [19:48:03] <mfbot> [[hcard-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-issues&diff=0&oldid=14444 * Christina Hope * (+239) Issues -
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  407. [20:24:47] <mfbot> [[governance-issues-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues-fr&diff=0&oldid=14445 * ChristopheDucamp * (+16) Problématique Initiale -
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  410. [20:31:02] <mkaply> anyone around to answer an hreview question?
  411. [20:31:12] <mkaply> If an hreview's item is an hcalendar item.
  412. [20:31:18] <mfbot> [[hcard-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-issues&diff=0&oldid=14446 * AndyMabbett * (+10) request URL
  413. [20:31:27] <mkaply> Does the item really have to have an fn as the child? Or is the summary of the hcalendar enough?
  414. [20:33:34] <mfbot> [[governance-issues-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues-fr&diff=0&oldid=14447 * ChristopheDucamp * (+211) Exemples -
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  417. [20:39:25] <mfbot> [[governance-issues-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues-fr&diff=0&oldid=14448 * ChristopheDucamp * (+179) [fr: first draft to be reviewed]
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  437. [21:49:14] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14453 * AndyMabbett * (+170) Discussion - links
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  440. [22:02:52] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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  448. [22:24:52] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14455 * Tantek * (+3447) moved unmoderation discussion here, removed link that just linked back, followed up on some trivial issues
  449. [22:26:43] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14456 * Tantek * (-2914) previous revert was undoing another of Andy's negative adversarial edits. At this point Andy's behavior on the wiki constitutes sufficient grounds for banning from the wiki for a month.
  450. [22:34:30] <mfbot> [[rel-tag-spaces]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-spaces&diff=0&oldid=14457 * AndyMabbett * (+379) ISBN
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