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ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com
?karma
Karma Dump available at: http://an9.org/~jibot
remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
Howdy folks! I'm looking for that feeds.technorati thing that you put on your site and it goes to technorati and it downloads/converts hCard to vCard onto your personal computer.
where did i see that...?
lots of places you might have seen it
yea! i know. i went to technorati's site and found the form where you input a url and it'll just do it for you.
cool
But, i'm trying to figure out how to put that link in the site without the visitor going to technorati's site
well, a direct link works
webcal://feeds.technorati.com/events/http://epeus.blogspot.com is what I use to get an iCal subscription on mine
so in your case it's important to put the webcal instead of http, right?
so does this look good: http://feeds.technorati.com/contacts/http://yadda.yadda
what i'm asking is, is this the "standard way" of doing this?
yes
thank you kevin
mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
[[currency-formats]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-formats * ScottReynen * (+289) Created with ISO 4217
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
'lo
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
morning tantek :)
gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
morning Whiskey_M
drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
the UK is waking up ;-) morning all - how goes?
[[currency-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8747 * AndyMabbett * (-2) ]
[[currency-formats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8748 * AndyMabbett * (+13) tyops
Nah, I usually 'wake up' around never!
morning morning
BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk (+0000/+0100 GMT)
morning BenWard
Morning Drew
how goes?
Not bad thanks. First in the office again, despite being half an hour late. mmmmStartups.
this place seems to run 24/7
Therefore I shall catch up with μf-discuss and then return to the more mundane task of database implementation.
mmmm databases :)
relational database management systems these days ... i remember when all this were nowt but fields.
It's quite... large. And the list of views I need to create for it seems to grow rather than shrink. Ah well, my hope is to have it mostly done by end of day so I can do something more fun on Monday :)
Ha!
sql server 2005?
Yeah.
nice. i quite like sql server.
it's the tools i dislike
Yeah, this is the first time I've really used 2K5. Used 2000 every day when I worked with Steve at FSC.
Actually gotta say, SQL Server Management Studio that comes with 2005 (replacing Query Analyser and Enterprise Manager) is such a huge improvement. It's many, many orders of magnitude better than what they had before
yes, i've never used 2005, but used 2000 for years, and before that v7
that's what i was hoping for
i should check it out
I think it's built on the same UI core as the current Visual Studios, so it's rather more robust (tabbed UI for queries/table editing/everything).
better than the old everything-is-modal model where you end up running multiple instances of both Query Analyser and Enterprise Manager
we'll be sent to #sqlserverfanbois any moment
I hated Enterprise Manager so much. I don't know the name of the Windows framework it was built on, but it was the same as one of the generic ‘management console’ kind of set-ups used for simple stuff like the Computer Management app. You'd think for a piece of software they're selling for 10ドルK they'd produce something dedicated to the task...
the worst thing is how you have to edit your stored procs in a tiny modal dialogue box ... you have to then be running a second instance of EM to reference your table structures.
Oh God, yeah. And the way it didn't have any kind of intelligent error highlighting: Just an alert box when you tried to save it.
And if the error was because you'd forgotten the name of your field, God help you because you couldn't switch back to the table view to double check.
you have to select the whole thing, copy to the clipboard, close the window, check, open it again, paste back in your changes and make the edit
oh, and when you create and save a new SP it errors telling you it already exists. grrr
Oh God, yes.
At what point did the SQL Server team lose so much life force to say ‘yeah, that'll do’?
the moment someone made them work under fluorescent lighting, i guess
upcoming.org have redesigned the watching/attending lists again
Now they look like someones mock up ;)
That's cool. I remember seeing Andy Baio's comment when that mock-up emerge. Paraphrasing, it was along the lines of ‘That's much better, we'll do that, give me a sec...’
[[mars-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mars-examples&diff=0&oldid=8749 * AndyMabbett * (+156) another example; sorting
[[mars-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mars-examples&diff=0&oldid=8750 * AndyMabbett * (+94) quote useage
[[mars-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mars-examples&diff=0&oldid=8751 * AndyMabbett * (+96) another quote
bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
[[mars-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mars-examples&diff=0&oldid=8752 * AndyMabbett * (+52) fmt
[[mars-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mars-examples&diff=0&oldid=8753 * AndyMabbett * (-1) sp.
[[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=8754 * AndyMabbett * (+95) Wikipedia
[[hcalendar]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=8755 * AndyMabbett * (-7) fmt
[[geo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=8756 * AndyMabbett * (+76) Wikipedia article on GeoTagging
[[geo]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=8757 * AndyMabbett * (-45) rm. redundant sub-heading
[[geo]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=8758 * AndyMabbett * (+0) sp.
bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
rev and rel are directional
yeah, and i've read the FAQ
the words are going in, but not computing
it's Friday ;)
i'm wondering whether to check for votelinks in rel-lint and flag that they should be using the rev attribute
that's a good idea
remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
if anyone was paying attention when i asked about dropping type from an card tell value seems like it gets through the parsers (x2v, hkit, tails) just fine
yay
we rock
bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
i've just been looking at the Luna and Mars stuff ... i shouldn't these be encompassed within geo? (type/value, default type of Earth)
[[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8759 * John Allsopp * (+42) Exploratory Discussions -
[[tagcloud-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/tagcloud-examples * John Allsopp * (+36)
[[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8760 * John Allsopp * (+54) Exploratory Discussions -
[[tagcloud-brainstorming]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/tagcloud-brainstorming * John Allsopp * (+55)
i haven't looked at whether is possible to extent geo like that parsing wise.. but i did raise the question on list myself
seems that would be the most logical direction
(says the outsider)
[[luna-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=luna-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8761 * DrewMcLellan * (+625) Comments regarding reusing geo
seems daft to have multiple formats that do the same thing for different lumps of rock
pnhChris, what do you want to extend in geo?
ah, where it was from
which terrafirma that is
right
type/value would work
default type is Earth, which gives us compatibility
you wouldn't need VALUE
value is the co-ord
the value is already in the lat/long or the @title
you would just need an optional type
and it is assumed to be EARTH
right
as cool as mapping other places is, i'm not sure it is practical
VALUE is there, but implicit
the list of examples is somewhat brief :)
well, you could actually use value within lat/long <span class="latitude">3 steps south is <span class="value">12.435678</span></span>
I don't see why mapping other places is 'inpractical'
not impractical, but if i am exporting data, what "consumer" apps can use it?
just saying, i have limited cycles, if i spend a day writting code, who would use it, and where can i get data.
just so I understand, the question is whether it should be possible to specify another "body" than Earth? (Mars, Moon, SecondLife)
not sure much SL, because it doesn't use LAT/LON, but yes basically
well, this is a q that came up in the Geo-community for doing mapping tiles
for SL, and non-lat/lon worlds the answer was posed to be do a mapping from SL coords to lat/lon coords
I think that kind of stinks, but that was the proposition
anyways, maybe some option "reference frame" would be nice? Could use rel
rel='wgs84' or rel='earth'
rel='mars', rel='secondlife'
or maybe I'm completely abusing the system
yes, but with rel that needs to be a link to something eg maps.google.com
the interesting thing about SL and WoW is that their worlds are indeed flat.
rel='placetime.com/geopoint/wgs84/'
well, for now they are
:)
would be neat to see them use some alternate 3-d spaces
but I digress
true, no one has tried to sail around it yet
right, so WoW and SL are simple Eulerian cartesian
I bet they've "tried"
it is hard to make a 0,0 centre when you are expanding your world outwards randomly
anyways, thinking say even within the next 5 years, people may want to reference lander locations on Moon/Mars
it is not an even growth on all sides in all directions, they bolt on new land one squre at a time
not really, if 0,0 center is fixed to be the first tile, then you can expand to MAX_INT, -MAX_INT
and there's no incentive to 'limit' it by making it a real sphere
and then maybe tile even that by doing deeper coordinate space (Major Tiles -> Minor Tiles)
i would agree that mapping other planets will become interesting and more popular - Microformats don't define the specifications to use, but gather existing data and model that
right, anyways, the question is, if you wanted to specify the reference frame for Geo, how would one do that?
at the moment - earth is the only one
that's why people are looking into the TYPE/VALUE idea
same that has been bouncing around the Currency discussion
and how we already do TEL/ADR/EMAIL
right, so specifying Earth/Mars is like specifying 'Pounds/USD/Euro'?
and Tel: 'Mobile/Home', Adr: 'Home/Work' ?
at the moment that is the current leader for how to mark it up
i would assume that other planets will use lat/lon and not some sort of other system like POLAR, (radius, distance, angle)? if they do then our GEO model is broken already.
example?
heh, correct geo should still work
[[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8762 * DrewMcLellan * (+9) Exploratory Discussions -
<abbr title="12.34;45.678">Apollo landing site on the <span class="type">moon</span></abbr>
http://moon.google.com/
but then arises a backwards incompatibility issue
not if you use XMDP Profiles
I like that example
though what is the title="lat;lon" format from?
i don't particularly like it from a sematic pov
how's that?
i think its a real abbr stretch.
the LAT;LON comes from vCARD which isn't too explaintory about where they got it
but i get the idea
you can certainly still use class="latitude" class="longitude" explicitly
i haven't been involved too much in the discussions of GEO outside of earth, but before we declare any "official" microformat - people can certainly test things out on their own site, then as things gain critical mass, the site can be cited as another example
well, being able to 'hide' the lat/lon is nice
my other concern, if i were to really care enough about this to get into finding a workable solution would be the desire not to have to repeat the type 30 times on a page like some of the example tables shown
sure - well, I am going to start putting up examples to push the geo community as well to see the benefits/usage examples of non-Earth mapping
so I'm going to do some Moon mapping using OpenLayers :)
yes, i want to play with that as well!
you should add them as a link on the wiki so others can find it
b/c when I brought up moon/mars mapping at FOSS4G - some people groaned
[[tagcloud-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=tagcloud-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8763 * AndyMabbett * (+43) boilerplate
ergo my desire to jump in on this convo - hrm... woudl be nice to have a bot to leave "markers" in a channel - if keywords pop up for a discussion, email me so I can log in and join
recently there has been a "lets get this microformat done this week" sort of attitude, or "why hasn't anyone added to my wiki page
well, it is probably because there isn't critical mass of interest yet
[[tagcloud-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=tagcloud-examples&diff=0&oldid=8764 * AndyMabbett * (+48) boilerlpate
we can document and things can lay dormant
well, I think perhaps people are a little frustrated, they want to get something done (due dates, projects, customers) and sometimes "Waiting for emergence" can be tedious
not everything NEEDS to happen by the end of the month
[[tagcloud]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/tagcloud * AndyMabbett * (+31) redirect
not everything ,but some people have customers/projects/timelines (not me, but I've heard it happens ;)
true, but nothing is stopping anyone from just using semantic classes to start with
true, but I think they're trying to 'play nice' and get consensus quickly - pipe dream :)
btw briansuda - I eventually found my flat Tuesday night - took some wandering & gps pinpointing
other other great thing about the web is that it is not like a print broshure, you can change it
:)
the web is dynamic - No! say it ain't so
the real world problem i run into is not enough clients give a rats ass once something is live... if there was more iteration and evolution on 'normal' sites i think developers would be more patient for things to just come along
briansuda: you can, but people holding the purses rarely care that it is
in my experience
unless the web is your business
well, at least there are grassroots hackers that can try and push and morph their projects
agreed, and if there was some MASSIVE push to map the moon tomorrow (or create a distributed Classified company) then there might be more movement - but like i said - i don't feel the critical mass/buzz so it is abit of a sleeper
[[luna-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=luna-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8765 * AndyMabbett * (+117) Drew McLellan - response
right - pragmatic,
that's good :)
which is why I want to make a demo site
perhaps it's my space background that makes it seem more important to me
[[luna-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=luna-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8766 * DrewMcLellan * (+141) Drew McLellan - Response to Andy Mabbett's response to me
everyone has a space background at night :D
moon co-ords are very cool and interesting, but i'm not sure the appeal is broad enough for a microformat, personally
if someone can find a way to cleanly extend geo that sits better with me then a new format totally (or for every body)... i just don't have the cycles to give to the discussion no matter what direction it goes in
otherwise it can wait until i'm flickr'ing my photos of my new house on mars :P
and need to map em
or planning a vacation, perhaps ;)
vacation? nah.. if i'm leaving this rock it'll be for good :P
I think the idea is to not make a *new* mf, but add a small extension to geo to allow some reference which would apply to moon/mars/virtual environments, and also model closely with how one specifies Work/Home/Mobile, for phones/address, etc.
and think for photos that you should mark what you're taking the photo *of*, so if you have a telescope, marking the lat/lon center (or bounds) of a photo of the moon (if you have a good telescope)
now THATS a disuccussion i'd think is worth having
kensanata is blogging at http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/
[[luna-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=luna-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8767 * AndyMabbett * (+204) Drew McLellan - response (& Ed)
sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
but i don't want to get into it because the issues of context are just too evil
[[luna-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=luna-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8768 * AndyMabbett * (+8) Drew McLellan -
and extends to everything from tags to geo to media, etc.
like the subtleties of the tagcloud discussion
pnhChris - what were you referring to about "THAT discussion"?
you mean, what are you tagging?
how to explicitly define what a geo [or tag, or author or.... ] is referring to
so it doesn't lose value or overreach its scope
re: luna, current parsers aren't looking for any type of rock, so adding one won't prevent them from mapping moon coordinated onto Earth maps
still feels like a solution without a problem
sreynen, that's where XMDP profiles come in and/or a new version of GEO
if you ONLY declare a LUNA GEO XMDP Profile, then any GEO parser should completely ignore any GEOs found
and vice versa
(e.g. things in a tag cloud not being "tags" because they're defining the contents of a site and not the current visible posts... or if you have a photo with 2 "geos" how to distinguish what point is where the photo was taken and the subject of the photo... or how to say "400iso" is more then just a tag in a list of things next to "balloons" but also can be extracted as exif data)
right, but that still requires rewriting existing parsers
(lots of things floating around that bother me but not enough just yet for me to go looking for solutions or complaining about specs)
which may be a worthwhile project
but no one seems to be recognizing this change in the email discussions
i do like the idea of something that would encourage use of profiles
seems everyone agrees they're a good idea, but no one is using them
i think maybe the wrong people are in the thread to be having /that/ discussion
i know i've tuned it out
I think XMDP profiles should be the next thing to evangelise - the tricky think is that i'm not sure how pre-made blog apps can/do support adding to HTML outside of the "entry" area.
is it a good idea or is it inevitable / required because there's no other way to evolve formats in a sane way?
well i think it is required to disambiguate all the new formats we are producing versus the existing formats we have reused and that apps are consuming currently
i think we'll run into a social problem where we have an updated format that requires profiles for backwards compatibility (e.g. adding a rock type to geo), and no one is using profiles, so it will just make microformats look broken
its always been there though
look at scoping issues with address/author or tags
i dunno.. need to get coffee and get to work sometime today
its a bigger discussion then i can take on this morning
;)
me too
when does a draft become a specification?
i thinking of hReview in particular
gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
the tantek sticker set is now available! http://www.etsy.com/view_item.php?listing_id=486089&pic_id=4
OOOOH, this is where you get the stickers from
hmmm
mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
[[currency formats]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/currency_formats * Guillaume Lebleu * (+1505)
[[currency formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency_formats&diff=0&oldid=8769 * Guillaume Lebleu * (+0)
cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
[[currency formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency_formats&diff=0&oldid=8770 * ScottReynen * (+105) Naming Conventions
[[currency formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency_formats&diff=0&oldid=8771 * ScottReynen * (+0) Oops - formatting
[[currency formats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency_formats&diff=0&oldid=8772 * AndyMabbett * (-1580) moving (you could have just done that...)
[[currency-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8773 * AndyMabbett * (+1521) moved, re-arranged
[[currency-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8774 * AndyMabbett * (+194) Canadian dollar - pasting my mailing-list reposnse
[[currency-formats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8775 * AndyMabbett * (+1) Canadian dollar - fmt
[[currency-formats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8776 * AndyMabbett * (+13) Canadian dollar - <code>
[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8777 * Daniel * (+154) Examples in the wild -
[[currency-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8778 * AndyMabbett * (+4) Canadian dollar - I shoudl use 'preview' more...
[[currency-formats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8779 * AndyMabbett * (+0) Canadian dollar - =
[[currency-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8780 * Guillaume Lebleu * (+612) Formats -
[[currency-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8781 * AndyMabbett * (+1) corrections (4127 is for ship-building!)
[[currency-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-formats&diff=0&oldid=8782 * AndyMabbett * (+41) ISO 4217 - another link
[[currency-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8783 * AndyMabbett * (+223) Andy Mabbett - References
[[currency-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8784 * AndyMabbett * (+95) References - anpther
[[hreview]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview&diff=0&oldid=8785 * Fold * (+130) Examples in the wild -
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
kingryan is ryan king
lots of good discussions last night apparently
gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
I just read the draft for the tagclouds microformat
what's the rationale behind requiringthe tags to be in a list element?
trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
keithalexander: I was wondering what purpose the enclosing <div /> serves.
yeah, you don't really need both
i'd rather have the div than the list though
hmmm
list might make more sense with stylesheets turned off I suppose
the wiki is still empty on the brainstorming/ideas for tagcloud?
but then again, that's visual sense of browser's default style
doesn't necessarily mean it's better semantics
[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8786 * DavidJanes * (-7) More Semantic Equivalents -
mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
[[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8787 * Tantek * (+56) minor wording tweak
trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
[[implementations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=8788 * BordeWolf * (+457) Added myself and Tails Export
lots of email on the list recently
which list?
microformats-discuss
evening
remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8789 * AndyMabbett * (+55) References - Taxon
kensanata is blogging at http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8790 * AndyMabbett * (+48) Questions - 'Taxon' as possible top-level name
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8791 * AndyMabbett * (+74) References - Hortax
[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=8792 * AndyMabbett * (+272) Cross (plant) added
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8793 * AndyMabbett * (+97) References - ICNCP
[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=8794 * AndyMabbett * (+140) Cross (plant) - another example
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8795 * AndyMabbett * (+26) Straw man proposal - specific epithet
[[species-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=8796 * AndyMabbett * (+0) Cross (plant) - fmt
[[species-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=8797 * AndyMabbett * (-4) Cross (plant) - fmt
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8798 * AndyMabbett * (+29) Straw man proposal - breed
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8799 * AndyMabbett * (+51) References - fix; add Wikispecies
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8800 * AndyMabbett * (+45) Questions - Taxon definition
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8801 * AndyMabbett * (+14) Straw man proposal - subphylum;, rename "sub" to "subsp"; fmt
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8802 * AndyMabbett * (+97) Straw man proposal - domain (& hierarchy ifxes)
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8803 * AndyMabbett * (+52) References - Wikispecies' Taxonomy page
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8804 * AndyMabbett * (+65) Straw man proposal - More types
?goodnight all
[[species-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8805 * AndyMabbett * (+49) Straw man proposal - more
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8806 * AndyMabbett * (+12) Straw man proposal - more
[[citation-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples&diff=0&oldid=8807 * Discoleo * (+1597) Citation Mark Up in the Wild -
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8808 * AndyMabbett * (+848) Examples -
MacDome is a WebKit hacker emeritus & has a passion for fashion & is finally back in CA! & has junk in his trunk! & now has more dots & now has a Super LoveSac!
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8809 * AndyMabbett * (+224) Examples - simplified
[[species-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8810 * AndyMabbett * (+108) Straw man proposal - tidy
[[species-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8811 * AndyMabbett * (-5) Examples - domain
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8812 * AndyMabbett * (+253) Straw man proposal - alternatives
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8813 * AndyMabbett * (+51) Questions - do "authority" and "pair" need a joint wrapper?
[[species-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8814 * AndyMabbett * (-10) Examples - tidy
[[species-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8815 * AndyMabbett * (+0) Examples - cap
[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8816 * AndyMabbett * (+273) Questions - "Podiceps sp." & clas confusion - proposed solutions
sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk (+0000/+0100 GMT)
[[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8817 * Discoleo * (+1127) Citing a conference publication -
[[firefox-extensions]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/firefox-extensions * AndyMabbett * (+257) A start
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