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Re: [ontolog-forum] What is an Ontologist?

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Date: 2014年1月19日 08:05:00 -0500
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http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2010_Communique is the actual communique that has the description of the job.

The "Core Skills" are not actually expressed as skills or abilities but are written as activities that a person would do. It is left to the reader to figure out what skills are required to do each activity listed.

Two types of ontologists are identified (IT-oriented ontologists and Community-oriented ontologists ) with a hint that other types might exist. I worry that the second type is more likely to encourage terrible ontologies made by people who are fully trained in their "community" field but have little or no training in system analysis and have a "dog in the fight".

One of the biggest skills is the ability to listen with an open mind and common sense to SMEs who may be lying to you, and extract the truth. SMEs don't mean to lie and are not aware that they are not telling the truth. It takes tact and care to get them to the truth sometimes. If you can't do this, then your analysis will be wrong and the resulting ontology will not stand up to community scrutiny or use.
I think that this skill might be a combination of "critical thinking", "effective listening" and "knowledge mapping". It is hard to teach.

With the push by IBM to incorporate Watson into mainstream business and scientific applications, there are probably changes to the "Core Knowledge" and section about integration and tools that are important.
I believe that there will be a lot of high paying opportunities for any ontologist fresh out of school who has worked on a class project that built any kind of working demo with Watson.

Ron


On 18/01/2014 5:20 PM, Iva E. Popova wrote:
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Hi Kingsley,
Maybe we should first find (and agree to) the answer of "What is an ontology?".

That question was stated officially 15 years ago, in 'Guarino, N.,Oberle, D. & Staab, S.
What is an ontology?. In: "Handbook on Ontologies". Springer, 2nd edition, 2009.' and stillthere is no ontological commitment about its meaning.


On 18 January 2014 02:37, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kingsley and All ...

(I trust Kingsley aleady knows and is just asking a rhetoric question.)

See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit

... as to the subject question, the OntologySummit community actually tried to answer it during OntologySummit 2010 ... check out the Communique and deliverable from that year (link available from the above page.)

Cheers. =ppy
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On Jan 17, 2014 4:31 PM, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 1/17/14 6:40 PM, Obrst, Leo J. wrote:

Kingsley,

It’s the “Ontology Summit 2014”, a series of Ontology Summits that go back to 2006, and is not just an Ontolog effort. The co-organizers are: Ontolog, NIST, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD. The theme this year is: Big Data and Semantic Web Meet Applied Ontology.

We invite you to join us and contribute to the effort. See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014.

Thanks,

Leo


Yes, I assumed I was joining and contributing :-)

Kingsley

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All,

I am sure many of you have been asked one of the following questions over the years:

1. What is an Ontologist?
2. Are you an Ontologist?
3. Do you have an Ontologist in your organization?

Anyway, in our buzzword (and buzz-phrase) oriented world, we do have to provide answers to these kinds of questions, for sure. Unfortunately, being referred to as an Ontologist (circa. 2014) doesn't deliver the same kind of sizzle that's associated with Data Scientist.

Bearing in mind our buzzword laden reality, what's a meaningful and zeitgeist friendly alternative for Ontologist, bearing in mind we know it doesn't imply Data Scientist ?

Personally, I've always considered Ontologists to be Data Artists due to the artistry that goes into creating a usable ontology aimed at enabling conceptual views over heterogeneously shaped data :-)

Why is this important?

Bridging Ontologies, Big Data, Open Data, Linked Open Data, and the Semantic Web is a strategic goal of the 2014 ontolog conference series.

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