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| From: | "Obrst, Leo J." <lobrst@xxxxxxxxx> |
| Date: | 2013年1月20日 00:31:15 +0000 |
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Yes, indeed, Matthew, but we need to clarify things in this forum, not confuse people, or give them false information. When the external programming language code surrounding a relational database essentially creates its own semantics in procedural code (which is extensive, I admit) for a given database, it is not the same as saying that the relational model of RDBs is open world. It’s not.
Thanks,
Leo
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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Knowledge graphs by Google and Facebook
Dear Leo,
DBMS query engines are generally closed world, but the applications that use them are not necessarily closed world but may reinterpret the closed world results.
Regards
Matthew
On Jan 19, 2013 10:31 PM, "Obrst, Leo J." <lobrst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Relational databases are nearly always under the closed world assumption. There may be exceptions, but they are few. Similarly, logic programming in general is under closed world assumption, though there are
variants (well-formed semantics) and answer set programming (which can have negation operators under both CWA and OWA).
Thanks,
Leo
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>SQL and SPARQL can be used for either open world or closed world
>databases. It is true that nearly all the stuff on the WWW is open
>world, but many, if not most relational DBs are also open world.
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