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Re: [ontolog-forum] 3D+1 (was presentism...was blah blah blah)

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From: Wacek Kusnierczyk <waku@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2011年2月04日 11:25:25 -0600
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On 2/4/11 11:10 AM, Yu Lin wrote:
>> What I said was that I don't know what the timestamp you mention would be:
> Sorry,
> An instance in BFO has a timestamp.
> For example:
> In BFO, a Patient has a Quality of Elevated Temperature. (Capital
> letter in the first letter means the Class) [in this statement, all in
> class level, so there is no timestamp]
> for instantiate :
> 1. Mary (instance of Patient) had a temperature measured as 100F at
> 16:43:00 2001年01月11日
> 2. Mary (same instance in 1) had a temperature measured as 90F at
> 12:00:00 2001年01月12日
>
> I hope I make it clear for you.  (01) 
Not really. If *every* instance has a timestamp, I'd expect something like  (02)
(Mary at t) has (a temperature 100f at t)  (03)
because that temperature seems to be, in this framework, an *iinstance* 
of the class Quality of Elevated Temperature.  (04)
> PS: I just know a little bit about logic. I have searched "IKL logic".
> There is a slide of Pat on internet.
> http://www.slideshare.net/PatHayes/ikl-presentation-for-ontolog (3
> years ago)
>
> I hope our communication can talk more on ontology as someone
> mentioned in another mail.  (05) 
We can probably quite successfully *talk* about ontology without any 
knowledge of logic, but as you set off to *formalize* your ontology -- 
and this seems to be your goal -- not knowing logic is rather an 
obstacle. (That's why I'm not doing ontology, for that matter.)  (06)
vQ  (07)
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