Andy Mabbett wrote: > <span class="vcard fn n org" id="club">West Midland Bird > Club</span> >> should work. Thoughts? >you can collapse the 'org' along with the 'fn' and 'n', but you can NOT collapse it into the 'vcard' as well. All properties need to be children of a class="vcard" for various reasons that can be found in the mailing list archives[1]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn n org" id="club">West Midland Bird Club</span></span> -brian [1] - http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-March/003480.html