[uf-discuss] like that in xFolk?

Bud Gibson bud at thecommunityengine.com
Wed Oct 26 19:17:13 PDT 2005


Well, seeing the term xFolk, my ears pricked up.
I think Tantek's example is good. The nice thing about xFolk is that 
it is value-free in some sense. It provides a means of expressing 
the tags you want.
Groups could agree to use a certain set of tags, perhaps just by 
seeing each other do it. We have an example of that here:
http://thecommunityengine.com/bit320/remix
But they don't have to and there can be factions, etc., all quite 
natural in social interaction.
Bud
On Oct 26, 2005, at 20:53, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar wrote:
> Hi Tantek,
>> On Oct 26, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
>>>> My suspicion is that the RSS/Atom community will probably 
>>> standardize
>>> on something first
>>>>>>> Really? Based on what experience?
>>>> Because I strongly suspect that existing video content owners 
> (people who own movies and TVs) will start using RSS and/or Atom to 
> publish their data, and will naturally look for ways to encode that 
> rating information (which is a valuable marketing tool).
>>>>> (since they'll mirror the issues that led movies, TV, and records 
>>> to get ratings),
>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>> Why would you choose those heavily regulated parallels as opposed 
>> to say
>> *internet* parallels like email, netnews, instant messaging, mp3s, 
>> etc.,
>> none of which have any kind of critical mass of official ratings.
>>>> I'm not saying we *have* to use them. I'm saying that people who 
> care will *want* to use something, and these will at least provide 
> a specific well-defined standard that gives people some baseline.
>> Look, I'm not trying to force anybody to do anything. However, I 
> do believe there are content creators -- and aggregators -- who 
> *would* like some simple way to tag content to enable and ease 
> *consumer* level filtering. Because of that, I think the first 
> large, credible group to come up with a reasonably useful rating 
> scheme will be widely imitated.
>> Given that US TV shows are the first to be sold on the Internet, 
> I'd be willing to bet a meal -- well, lunch :-) -- that those 
> ratings will become the de facto standard for rating online 
> content -- for those who care:
>> http://www.mpaa.org/tv/
>> Perhaps most content creators won't, but I suspect many popular 
> aggregators will require some such ratings, and it will be simpler 
> to just standardize on something like this.
>> -- Ernie P.
>>>>> ------------
> Ernest N. Prabhakar, Ph.D. <drernie at opendarwin.org>
> Ex-Physicist, Marketing Weenie, and Dilettante Hacker
> Probe-Hacker blog: http://www.opendarwin.org/~drernie/
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