On 29 Jun 2008, at 15:17, Glenn Jones wrote: > <http://ufxtract.com/experimental/hm-readable-date.htm> Glenn, in this page you state: > MUST format must follow the pattern order i.e.in English date, > month year, time, timezone That is an internationalisation no-no. It's not longer "human readable" if the language is question demands a different order and you break it for the sake of easier machine parsing. -- Norm.