[LOGic] Misc. Stuff RE 2 MONITORS

Sat Oct 22 00:10:53 EDT 2011

OK I pulled the main LOGIC window down to Monitor #1 and kept the SPOTLOG 
window up on Monitor #2.
Restarted various sources for spotlog data, watched a refresh, then brought 
mouse onto window and was able to scroll up/down among spots with no 
problems.
Was this what you wanted me to do?
73
k0dan
-----Original Message----- 
From: Ben Hatheway N6FM
Sent: October 21, 2011 06:33 PM
To: logic at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [LOGic] Misc. Stuff RE 2 MONITORS
For a test, can you temporarily pull the spot log out of the main window,
set it for "IN DESKTOP", then move the main window to monitor #1 leaving the
spot log in #2, then fill it with spots and, finally try scrolling with the
mouse wheel after clicking on the spot log to make it active??
> -----Original Message-----
> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K0DAN
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 3:57 PM
> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
> Cc: dh at hosenose.com
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Misc. Stuff RE 2 MONITORS
>> Yes I understand now. To clarify, all my LOGIC tasks (except LOGICMAP) are
> lumped together, so the forms are NOT separate. Since you have a useable
> work-around I did not modify what I have (sometimes I go places and cannot
> get back to the starting point!).
>> This works well for me and keeps my mouse "focused".
>> GL es 73
>> dan
> k0dan
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Hatheway N6FM
> Sent: October 21, 2011 01:33 PM
> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
> Cc: dh at hosenose.com
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Misc. Stuff RE 2 MONITORS
>> Dan:
>> You don't indicate whether this "one big logic window" means that the
forms
> are separate, "in desktop", or still within the main logic screen. Mine
are
> separate windows on the Windows desktop, so that the main Logic form is
> reduced to the size where just the radio frequency is visible.
>> On a hunch, I expanded the main logic window and placed the spot log
inside
> of it, unchecking "IN DESKTOP" on the spot log form. I then dragged the
> resulting combined window to the second monitor and now I CAN scroll it
> That will be an adequate work-around.
>> To summarize: If the spot log is by itself, "In desktop" (not within the
main
> logic form) I cannot scroll it with the mouse wheel on any monitor other
than
> #1. If , however, I place the spot log within the main form and turn OFF
"in
> desktop" so that the spot log is now confined to the main Logic form ,
then it
> WILL scroll with the mouse wheel on any monitor.
>> Orphan windows that are removed from the Logic screen (form), only scroll
if
> placed on the main screen. If the main screen is placed on a secondary
> monitor and the orphan window is placed back within it and "In Desktop" is
> unchecked, then the window can be scrolled with the wheel.
>> Hope I have clarified it sufficiently. It will suffice as a work-around.
>> Thanks
> Ben
>> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-
> > bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K0DAN
> > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:26 AM
> > To: logic at mailman.qth.net
> > Cc: dh at hosenose.com
> > Subject: Re: [LOGic] Misc. Stuff RE 2 MONITORS
> >
> > Running Windows 7 Ultimate X64 with LOGIC 8 here. Use ATI 5670 Radeon
> > graphics card with two 24" monitors. Via the graphics card/Windows
> > they
> are
> > set up as "Extended Displays", that is, I have two 24" screens which
> comprise
> > one big desktop.
> >
> > Only the "primary" display has a toolbar/taskbar at the bottom. Any
> > open apps can be dragged from one screen to another, and if the system
> > closes down properly, Windows will remember the position of the open
> > applications.
> > Works slick.
> >
> > As to LOGIC, I cluster my logging, callbook, info, and spot screens
> together
> > (one big LOGIC window) on the second monitor. As long as I have
> > clicked
> the
> > mouse (actually a trackball in my case) "focus" onto a LOGIC screen,
> > the mouse buttons & wheels move & scroll just fine within LOGIC. If I
> point/click
> > on another application, then the "focus" changes to the other
> > application,
> no
> > matter what screen it's on.
> >
> > Perhaps I am not understanding the problem correctly (could you
> > summarize if you want me to try again?) but everything seems to be
> > working fine
> here,
> > using the two monitors.
> >
> > 73
> > dan
> > k0dan
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dennis
> > Sent: October 20, 2011 08:17 PM
> > To: logic at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [LOGic] Misc. Stuff
> >
> > Ok, strange. I am curious if it happens to everyone. I have a second
> monitor
> > I can hook up & try it. But I won't be able to do anything about it.
> There is no
> > code in LOGic to handle multiple monitors (it has no idea if it is in
> another
> > monitor or not), and no code to handle the mouse wheel either for that
> > matter. Windows does it all.
> >
> > Tnx & 73,
> >
> > Dennis WN4AZY
> >
> > On 10/20/2011 8:17 PM, Ben Hatheway N6FM wrote:
> > > Dennis:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply. To clarify, the scrolling of the spot log
> > > window issue is not whether or not the window is "in windows
> > > desktop". It is run as a separate window in all cases. I run all
windows "in
> desktop"
> > > and they are spread out over three monitors. The main window of
> > > Logic is compressed down to a small block in the corner of the
> > > screen. As a test, I dragged the "other QSO's" form to another
> > > monitor (it is full of T32C QSO's so there is a scroll bar) and it
> > > didn't scroll with the mouse wheel either. I dragged the right 1/4
> > > of the form back to the main monitor so that it straddled two
> > > monitors and when the mouse was on that portion of the form that was
> > > on the main monitor, it scrolled fine.
> > > For comparison, I.E. 9, Firefox, Chrome, etc all will scroll with
> > > the mouse wheel if placed on any monitor here.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for the reply on the other issues.
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-
> > >> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis
> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:57 PM
> > >> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
> > >> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Misc. Stuff
> > >>
> > >> Hi Ben:
> > >>
> > >> On 10/20/2011 2:13 PM, Ben Hatheway N6FM wrote:
> > >>> I have been a Logic user since Logic 5 and really enjoy the
> > >>> versatility and easiness to configure and make changes. There are,
> > >>> however some minor annoyances to which some attention might be
> > paid.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. When running the spot log on a monitor other than the main
> one,
> > > the
> > >>> spot log cannot be scrolled with the mouse thumbwheel. If I drag
> > >>> one end of the spot log to the main screen, I can scroll the spot
> > >>> log with the mouse wheel from the end that is on the main screen.
> > >>> This occurs if the video card is the same for each monitor or not.
> > >>> Thumb scrolling only works from the main screen.
> > >> I don't have a second monitor, but putting the spot log window IN
> > >> WINDOWS DESKTOP makes no difference here -- it works At any rate,
> > >> there isn't anything I can do -- We have no control over what
> > >> Windows does when moving between monitors. Maybe an updated
> video
> > >> driver
> > will work.
> > >>
> > >>> 2. DX scape window often returns with "File too small" errors.
> > > This
> > >>> might be attributed to a problem with the web site, however,
> > >>> re-downloading often works, if not, closing the form and reopening
> > >>> it works EVERY TIME. Too coincidental to be a website problem IMHO.
> > >> That would typically be the case. However, I have seen a case on
> > >> one
> > > guy's
> > >> machine where IE simply failed to load the whole page after logging
in.
> > >> I
> > >> have not found a cause. A lot of that is getting rewritten, so
> > >> that may
> > > help.
> > >>>
> > >>> 3. Occasionally when closing the program, it will ask if I
want
> to
> > >>> save the log, even if it has already been saved. If I select no,
> > >>> the program returns back with all the previously used forms open.
> > >> Ok, you're using the option to prompt before saving? See if you
> > >> can reproduce the problem -- something is changing a field. I
> > >> don't use that option so it may well be a problem I am not aware of.
> > >>
> > >>> 4. Alerts do not display automatically. A message window does
> pop
> > > up,
> > >>> but I have to click on the main log window and back to the alert
> > >>> window
> > > to
> > >>> see them. This can be annoying considering all the spots that have
> > >> appearing
> > >>> fast and furious for T32C. I realize I could filter the main log,
> > >>> but I still want to keep track of what else is going on in the
> > >>> world. (However
> > > the
> > >>> existing implementation of the alert might indicate that it is not
> > >>> practicable).
> > >> I see that too. Will look at it.
> > >>
> > >>> 5. Nice to have- Could DX Atlas show a line from my QTH to the
> dot
> > >>> representing the location of the selected DX station? TRX Manager
> > >>> does,
> > > I
> > >>> thought it might be nice to have one there.
> > >> DX station selected where? The spot log? It does draw on LOGic's
> > >> map as you scroll thru spots.
> > >>
> > >>> 6. Could the MODE field (and the band field) in the spot log
be
> > >>> determined by the main spotted frequency instead of the offset?
> > >>> Too
> > >> often,
> > >>> the spotting station uses some unorthodox verbiage to indicate the
> > >>> split
> > >> and
> > >>> Logic cannot (nor should be expected to) decipher what is meant.
> > >> Sometimes
> > >>> it shows a 10 meter spot instead of a 15 meter spot (or something
> > >>> like
> > > that)
> > >>> because Logic thinks the offset is in the 10 meter band because
> > >>> some
> > >> spotter
> > >>> used the actual split frequency with the "UP" parameter.
> > >> I'll have to check my notes on that if I have any -- it would have
> > >> required some extra effort to use the RX freq -- there must have
> > >> been a reason but I don't recall why.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> All software possesses some anomalous behavior, but even with
> > >>> these
> > >> minor
> > >>> annoyances, Logic still remains the best choice for fast,
> > >>> efficient
> > > logging
> > >>> spotting, reporting, and flexibility I have ever used.
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> 73,
> > >>
> > >> Dennis WN4AZY
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Ben
> > >>>
> > >>> N6FM
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
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