[LOGic] Misc. Stuff RE 2 MONITORS

Fri Oct 21 18:56:52 EDT 2011

Yes I understand now. To clarify, all my LOGIC tasks (except LOGICMAP) are 
lumped together, so the forms are NOT separate. Since you have a useable 
work-around I did not modify what I have (sometimes I go places and cannot 
get back to the starting point!).
This works well for me and keeps my mouse "focused".
GL es 73
dan
k0dan
-----Original Message----- 
From: Ben Hatheway N6FM
Sent: October 21, 2011 01:33 PM
To: logic at mailman.qth.net
Cc: dh at hosenose.com
Subject: Re: [LOGic] Misc. Stuff RE 2 MONITORS
Dan:
You don't indicate whether this "one big logic window" means that the forms
are separate, "in desktop", or still within the main logic screen. Mine are
separate windows on the Windows desktop, so that the main Logic form is
reduced to the size where just the radio frequency is visible.
On a hunch, I expanded the main logic window and placed the spot log inside
of it, unchecking "IN DESKTOP" on the spot log form. I then dragged the
resulting combined window to the second monitor and now I CAN scroll it That
will be an adequate work-around.
To summarize: If the spot log is by itself, "In desktop" (not within the
main logic form) I cannot scroll it with the mouse wheel on any monitor
other than #1. If , however, I place the spot log within the main form and
turn OFF "in desktop" so that the spot log is now confined to the main Logic
form , then it WILL scroll with the mouse wheel on any monitor.
Orphan windows that are removed from the Logic screen (form), only scroll if
placed on the main screen. If the main screen is placed on a secondary
monitor and the orphan window is placed back within it and "In Desktop" is
unchecked, then the window can be scrolled with the wheel.
Hope I have clarified it sufficiently. It will suffice as a work-around.
Thanks
Ben
> -----Original Message-----
> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K0DAN
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:26 AM
> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
> Cc: dh at hosenose.com
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Misc. Stuff RE 2 MONITORS
>> Running Windows 7 Ultimate X64 with LOGIC 8 here. Use ATI 5670 Radeon
> graphics card with two 24" monitors. Via the graphics card/Windows they
are
> set up as "Extended Displays", that is, I have two 24" screens which
comprise
> one big desktop.
>> Only the "primary" display has a toolbar/taskbar at the bottom. Any open
> apps can be dragged from one screen to another, and if the system closes
> down properly, Windows will remember the position of the open
> applications.
> Works slick.
>> As to LOGIC, I cluster my logging, callbook, info, and spot screens
together
> (one big LOGIC window) on the second monitor. As long as I have clicked
the
> mouse (actually a trackball in my case) "focus" onto a LOGIC screen, the
> mouse buttons & wheels move & scroll just fine within LOGIC. If I
point/click
> on another application, then the "focus" changes to the other application,
no
> matter what screen it's on.
>> Perhaps I am not understanding the problem correctly (could you summarize
> if you want me to try again?) but everything seems to be working fine
here,
> using the two monitors.
>> 73
> dan
> k0dan
>>>> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis
> Sent: October 20, 2011 08:17 PM
> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Misc. Stuff
>> Ok, strange. I am curious if it happens to everyone. I have a second
monitor
> I can hook up & try it. But I won't be able to do anything about it.
There is no
> code in LOGic to handle multiple monitors (it has no idea if it is in
another
> monitor or not), and no code to handle the mouse wheel either for that
> matter. Windows does it all.
>> Tnx & 73,
>> Dennis WN4AZY
>> On 10/20/2011 8:17 PM, Ben Hatheway N6FM wrote:
> > Dennis:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. To clarify, the scrolling of the spot log window
> > issue is not whether or not the window is "in windows desktop". It is
> > run as a separate window in all cases. I run all windows "in desktop"
> > and they are spread out over three monitors. The main window of Logic
> > is compressed down to a small block in the corner of the screen. As a
> > test, I dragged the "other QSO's" form to another monitor (it is full
> > of T32C QSO's so there is a scroll bar) and it didn't scroll with the
> > mouse wheel either. I dragged the right 1/4 of the form back to the
> > main monitor so that it straddled two monitors and when the mouse was
> > on that portion of the form that was on the main monitor, it scrolled
> > fine.
> > For comparison, I.E. 9, Firefox, Chrome, etc all will scroll with the
> > mouse wheel if placed on any monitor here.
> >
> > Thanks again for the reply on the other issues.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-
> >> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:57 PM
> >> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Misc. Stuff
> >>
> >> Hi Ben:
> >>
> >> On 10/20/2011 2:13 PM, Ben Hatheway N6FM wrote:
> >>> I have been a Logic user since Logic 5 and really enjoy the
> >>> versatility and easiness to configure and make changes. There are,
> >>> however some minor annoyances to which some attention might be
> paid.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1. When running the spot log on a monitor other than the main
one,
> > the
> >>> spot log cannot be scrolled with the mouse thumbwheel. If I drag one
> >>> end of the spot log to the main screen, I can scroll the spot log
> >>> with the mouse wheel from the end that is on the main screen. This
> >>> occurs if the video card is the same for each monitor or not. Thumb
> >>> scrolling only works from the main screen.
> >> I don't have a second monitor, but putting the spot log window IN
> >> WINDOWS DESKTOP makes no difference here -- it works At any rate,
> >> there isn't anything I can do -- We have no control over what Windows
> >> does when moving between monitors. Maybe an updated video driver
> will work.
> >>
> >>> 2. DX scape window often returns with "File too small" errors.
> > This
> >>> might be attributed to a problem with the web site, however,
> >>> re-downloading often works, if not, closing the form and reopening
> >>> it works EVERY TIME. Too coincidental to be a website problem IMHO.
> >> That would typically be the case. However, I have seen a case on one
> > guy's
> >> machine where IE simply failed to load the whole page after logging in.
> >> I
> >> have not found a cause. A lot of that is getting rewritten, so that
> >> may
> > help.
> >>>
> >>> 3. Occasionally when closing the program, it will ask if I want
to
> >>> save the log, even if it has already been saved. If I select no, the
> >>> program returns back with all the previously used forms open.
> >> Ok, you're using the option to prompt before saving? See if you can
> >> reproduce the problem -- something is changing a field. I don't use
> >> that option so it may well be a problem I am not aware of.
> >>
> >>> 4. Alerts do not display automatically. A message window does
pop
> > up,
> >>> but I have to click on the main log window and back to the alert
> >>> window
> > to
> >>> see them. This can be annoying considering all the spots that have
> >> appearing
> >>> fast and furious for T32C. I realize I could filter the main log,
> >>> but I still want to keep track of what else is going on in the
> >>> world. (However
> > the
> >>> existing implementation of the alert might indicate that it is not
> >>> practicable).
> >> I see that too. Will look at it.
> >>
> >>> 5. Nice to have- Could DX Atlas show a line from my QTH to the
dot
> >>> representing the location of the selected DX station? TRX Manager
> >>> does,
> > I
> >>> thought it might be nice to have one there.
> >> DX station selected where? The spot log? It does draw on LOGic's map
> >> as you scroll thru spots.
> >>
> >>> 6. Could the MODE field (and the band field) in the spot log be
> >>> determined by the main spotted frequency instead of the offset? Too
> >> often,
> >>> the spotting station uses some unorthodox verbiage to indicate the
> >>> split
> >> and
> >>> Logic cannot (nor should be expected to) decipher what is meant.
> >> Sometimes
> >>> it shows a 10 meter spot instead of a 15 meter spot (or something
> >>> like
> > that)
> >>> because Logic thinks the offset is in the 10 meter band because some
> >> spotter
> >>> used the actual split frequency with the "UP" parameter.
> >> I'll have to check my notes on that if I have any -- it would have
> >> required some extra effort to use the RX freq -- there must have been
> >> a reason but I don't recall why.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> All software possesses some anomalous behavior, but even with these
> >> minor
> >>> annoyances, Logic still remains the best choice for fast, efficient
> > logging
> >>> spotting, reporting, and flexibility I have ever used.
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Dennis WN4AZY
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ben
> >>>
> >>> N6FM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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