[LOGic] Logform Issue

N6FM Ben n6fm at oregonfast.net
Sun Jan 4 11:08:59 EST 2009


I do not have a SteppIR, but in reviewing the DOCS for TRX, I do see that
the SteppIR window does have a 180 degree button. 
I use TRX on 2 systems networked because my rotators are controlled by the
second computer. The rotator control on the main computer controls the
rotators on the second computer (long story as to why I must do it that way)
but it works. 
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 9:12 PM
To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
program
Subject: Re: [LOGic] Logform Issue
I'm just starting to use TRX-Manager, but it seems to me that it's just as 
easy to log directly into LOGic, especially from the Spot Manager. I'm 
running a SteppIR 3 element Yagi with the 30-40 meter driven element. I'm 
not sure there's a way to activate its 180 degree function remotely for 
quick long path checking -- I'm looking into that.
--Jeff, K6JW
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "N6FM Ben" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging 
program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 15:19
Subject: RE: [LOGic] Logform Issue
>I minimize TRX Manager except for the DX Window which, since it is a
> separate application and therefore need not reside in the main TRX Window,

> I
> can put it among the Logic forms. Laurent was kind enough to add a "long"
> path button for the rotator so an entire QSO can be logged without using 
> the
> remainder of TRX. Then I periodically export ADIF from Logic to TRX to 
> keep
> the log current. A final step is to import the confirmed QSO list from 
> LOTW
> into TRX so as to show confirmed.
>> Ben
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:37 PM
> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
> program
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Logform Issue
>> Dear Ben:
> Your suggestion about screen organization is the one that I actually
> adopted a couple of days ago. I think it's the only easy way right now to
> accomplish the task. I put the data entry form, browse window, and spot 
> log
> on the "main" screen, and TRX-Manager on the second screen with several
> other windows I like to use: DX progress et al. This screws up the basic
> screen layout that I prefer, but using logmein.com for remote access makes
> toggling back and forth between the screens a matter of one click, so this
> isn't too bad a way to go as a compromise "one size fits all" solution for
> home and on the road.
> Maybe Dennis would consider an enhancement to the program that would
> allow one's entire screen layout to be saved as a "logform", with a menu
> option ("Close logform") to close it in its entirety so a new one could be
> opened in the workspace. This would NOT change the log database, but only
> the appearance of the screen(s). Dennis, what do you think?
> 73,
> Jeff, K6JW
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "N6FM Ben" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
> program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 16:33
> Subject: RE: [LOGic] Logform Issue
>>>> The only way I can think of is to use the INSTANCE parameter and load the
>> program twice in separate folders.
>>>> You might also consider in your two-screen environment to place forms you
>> may not absolutely need, such as memberships, etc on the second monitor 
>> so
>> that if they don't show up on the single monitor, no big deal.
>>>> Ben
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>> On Behalf Of J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW
>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 4:00 PM
>> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>> program
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Logform Issue
>>>> Nope -- still not quite right.
>> What I WANT to do is to use the SAME database, but a different screen
>> layout
>>>> more suitable to the laptop single monitor instead of the home dual
>> monitors. I should be able to load a specific logform to do this, but 
>> with
>> reference to the same log database. There doesn't seem to be any easy way
>> to
>>>> do this.
>> --Jeff, K6JW
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "N6FM Ben" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
>> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>> program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:23
>> Subject: RE: [LOGic] Logform Issue
>>>>>>> OK, I think you mean that you wish to use a separate log database for 
>>> the
>>> home station than the remote station? If you wish to use a separate
>>> database
>>> for remote contacts vs local contacts, then I think what you would have
>>> to
>>> do is define a new shortcut for the program and add the parameters in 
>>> the
>>> command-line specifying the location of the desired log database (DATA
>>> perameter). Then you would restart the program each time using the
>>> different
>>> shortcuts.
>>>>>> I don't know any other way to switch databases. Someone else might.
>>>>>> I understood your question:
>>>>>>> My question is whether there is any easy way to close one logform
>>>> and load another without first closing every window in one logform
>>>> before loading the next, so they're not one on top of the other?
>>>>>> ...to mean that you wanted to just that, close the log form without
>>> closing
>>> the other windows and open a different log form. IN any event, the other
>>> forms (I assume forms such as "Other QSOs", "INFO", etc) would apply to
>>> whatever database you were using (LOG.DBF), not a specific log form.
>>>>>> The logform merely is a means to add QSOs to the database, it is not the
>>> database unto itself. "LOG.DBF" is the actual log.
>>>>>> Also, look in the docs under "multiple instances of Logic" and
>>> "networking
>>> and multiple databases"....where it discusses the "DATA" parameter.
>>>>>> Hope that helps..
>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>>> On Behalf Of J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW
>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:21 AM
>>> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>>> program
>>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Logform Issue
>>>>>> Hi, Ben.
>>> Thanks for the quick response. Clicking on that X only closes the data
>>> entry and browse windows. It doesn't close all the other open windows.
>>> What
>>> I'd really like to do is clear the entire workspace, i.e., also have the
>>> Spot Log and other open windows close, too. There may be no good way to
>>> do
>>> this, unfortunately, since the "logform" definition appears to include
>>> just
>>> the data entry and browse windows. Ideally, the "logform" would include
>>> everything on the screen at the time it's closed, but I guess it 
>>> doesn't.
>>> I
>>> might have to set up another log database and just move any remotely 
>>> made
>>> contacts to the main log when I get home. Seems awfully cumbersome.
>>> --Jeff, K6JW
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "N6FM Ben" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
>>> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic 
>>> logging
>>> program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 09:41
>>> Subject: RE: [LOGic] Logform Issue
>>>>>>>>>> Try the X in the upper right corner of the logform, or select its
>>>> representative icon in the Windows taskbar, right click and choose
>>>> "Close".
>>>>>>>> Then Click on Forms then All log forms and pick the one you want. You
>>>> can
>>>> have more than one open at the same time on the same database.
>>>>>>>> Hope I understood your question correctly.
>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>>>> On Behalf Of J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:12 AM
>>>> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: [LOGic] Logform Issue
>>>>>>>> To All:
>>>> Happy new year to everyone.
>>>> Here's my issue to start the new year off with a bang. I run LOGic8
>>>> over
>>>> two monitors at the home station. I'm setting up for remote access to
>>>> the
>>>> station, however, and will be doing that access from a laptop. What I'd
>>>> like
>>>>>>>> to do is to set up a new logform on one screen for when I'm accessing
>>>> remotely. Setting up the new form is easy.
>>>> My question is whether there is any easy way to close one logform and
>>>> load another without first closing every window in one logform before
>>>> loading the next, so they're not one on top of the other? There doesn't
>>>> seem
>>>>>>>> (or I can't find) any "close logform" command in the available menus. 
>>>> Am
>>>> I
>>>> just looking in the wrong place?
>>>> Is there a way to set up a shortcut that will load the desired 
>>>> logform
>>>> without having to copy the entire logdata directory, which would have
>>>> the
>>>> undesirable effect of creating a separate log database? I don't want to
>>>> do
>>>> that.
>>>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>>> Again, a happy and healthy new year to all.
>>>> 73,
>>>> Jeff, K6JW
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