[Logic] Another problem with F6

2003年9月21日 13:08:06 -0400

Actually I use Writelog for contesting... 
Trouble is... I honestly find Logic the clumsiest program I've used to
date for straightforward entry of QSO's as I operate... Which I consider
to be a shame, because it has so many very nice features, and I'm sure
the entry process could easily be optimized. The other programs I have
used extensively are CT and Writelog (for contesting only) and Log-EQF,
Win-EQF, DX4Win and DXLab.
A logging program, even for everyday logging, should be very natural to
use as you make contacts... With Logic, I'm fighting with it all the
time... Which is particularly distracting if you are trying to copy CW
and battle Logic simultaneously. Now, I'm sure some of this is just a
matter of getting used to Logic's eccentricities, but overall the entry
of QSO's as you operate could be improved a lot. It's quite likely that
this is a result of Logic's fairly long history... It started as a DOS
program, and has evolved thru a few Window's versions now. Sometimes
things can get a bit "untidy" from trying to maintain backward keystroke
compatibility from version to version... 
As things stand, I might switch back to DX4Win... However, I would
really miss some of the Logic features... So I'm really hoping Dennis
takes a fresh look at the entry process...
Cheers & Beers...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carl Smidt
> Sent: September 21, 2003 11:15
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Logic] Another problem with F6
>>> I have been reading along and following the ideas in this 
> thread, all good and sound and very interesting.
>> However, it should not be forgotten that LOGic is a general 
> logging program, albeit, also a contesting program, but only 
> for the casual contester, most serious contesters would 
> insist on CT. I don't really know if it would be a good idea 
> to try and turn this excellent general logging program into 
> something that it is not and, perhaps, should not be.
>> Just my casual thoughts.
>> 73, Carl VE9OV
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mel" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 9:59 AM
> Subject: [Logic] Another problem with F6
>>> > When pressing F6 to set the start time of a QSO... If 
> "replaces" the 
> > RST sent/received with 599/599 regardless of what you have 
> type in...
> > 
> > It doesn't really make sense to "preset" RST Rcvd... But typically 
> > while waiting to work a station I will enter RST sent... 
> Actually "RST 
> > to be sent" ;-)
> > 
> > This touches on the whole QSO entry process... So allow we 
> to offer an 
> > opinion from one who hasn't used Logic for long... But has designed 
> > programs for a long time...
> > 
> > The objective when entering QSO's is to make it as simple as 
> > possible... With as few keystrokes as possible... And using 
> ONE hand 
> > as much as possible... The other one is on the key or dial...
> > 
> > We should not have use the mouse... We should not have to use 
> > keystrokes like Cntl-N
> > 
> > I would suggest something along the lines of:
> > 
> > You see something Interesting...
> > 
> > F5 --- grabs the current spot
> > This will load callsign to the log and set rig frequency, mode, AND 
> > WIDTH... Presently on some Icoms it puts the rig in CW wide mode... 
> > Not good...
> > 
> > The DX responds...
> > F6 --- sets the Start time... Doesn't clobber anything you have 
> > entered or corrected...
> > 
> > Done...
> > F7 saves
> > 
> > Either New QSO...
> > F8
> > 
> > Or go back to frequency before jumping on spot
> > F9 or something... Doesn't matter here... Not in a hurry any more...
> > 
> > Another mouse avoiding suggestion...
> > Shortcut keys to jump to for RST / Name / Qth would also be 
> handy... 
> > Ie shift-ctl-R RST received, shift-ctl-N Name, shift-ctl-Q 
> or maybe a 
> > simple 2 sequential keys... F12 = go to... F12 then R 
> RST... F12 then 
> > N Name... Etc...
> > 
> > Mel...
> > VE2DC
> > 
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